Best Wifi enabled thermostat
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I figure if it costs £20 a normal valve it adds an extra £35 for each raditor for the Honeywell valves - so 9 rads times 35 is best part of £300 extra.
That beign said, the ability to quickly heat up one room without havign to heat the whole hosue would be a MASSIVE benefit to me as I am often home alone and there is simply no need toheat the whole house 90% of the time.
My only concern is that the system will be to complex to just turn the entire hosue on and off for my mother - who just needs a simple on/off switch.
On a related note. If I was just to use the thermostat as an on/off switch rather than a timer, I have been looking at the NEST and WAVE - the nest seems to make it easy - you just switch the dial til it goes red so the boiler comes on - is it that simple?
The WAVE with its touchscreen just seems to make it that step harder for elderly people. Can anyone confirm the WAVE works in a simialr way in that if you press the up arrow and it exceeds current temp it wil lcome on and then if you want to turn it down you just down arrow?
That beign said, the ability to quickly heat up one room without havign to heat the whole hosue would be a MASSIVE benefit to me as I am often home alone and there is simply no need toheat the whole house 90% of the time.
My only concern is that the system will be to complex to just turn the entire hosue on and off for my mother - who just needs a simple on/off switch.
On a related note. If I was just to use the thermostat as an on/off switch rather than a timer, I have been looking at the NEST and WAVE - the nest seems to make it easy - you just switch the dial til it goes red so the boiler comes on - is it that simple?
The WAVE with its touchscreen just seems to make it that step harder for elderly people. Can anyone confirm the WAVE works in a simialr way in that if you press the up arrow and it exceeds current temp it wil lcome on and then if you want to turn it down you just down arrow?
Mojooo said:
On a related note. If I was just to use the thermostat as an on/off switch rather than a timer, I have been looking at the NEST and WAVE - the nest seems to make it easy - you just switch the dial til it goes red so the boiler comes on - is it that simple?
Pretty much, turn it clockwise to turn the temperature up, it'll send a signal to the boiler to come on. Conversely, too hot, turn it anti clockwise and you can set the temperature lower. I have been using a Salus IT500 for about a year, for 1 zone Heating and Hot Water.
Once I downloaded the app and didn't have to circumnavigate the thermostats complicated menus, I've found it to have good functionality and usability.
One question I did have: what are everyone's experiences generally with the temp set vs. when the heating does/does not fire. I.e. if you set temp at X degrees, what temp does the heating come on and what temp does it go off?
Once I downloaded the app and didn't have to circumnavigate the thermostats complicated menus, I've found it to have good functionality and usability.
One question I did have: what are everyone's experiences generally with the temp set vs. when the heating does/does not fire. I.e. if you set temp at X degrees, what temp does the heating come on and what temp does it go off?
Mojooo said:
The WAVE with its touchscreen just seems to make it that step harder for elderly people. Can anyone confirm the WAVE works in a simialr way in that if you press the up arrow and it exceeds current temp it wil lcome on and then if you want to turn it down you just down arrow?
Yep. It defaults back to the set temp when it gets to the next time period.It's worth noting that for combi's it's been standard for years to use a programmable thermostat rather than an on/off controller. So the boiler is always on (as in available if the room 'stat calls for heat of if someone turns a tap on to get hot water).
On/off controllers really only make sense if you've got stored hot water.
f1_dragon said:
I have been using a Salus IT500 for about a year, for 1 zone Heating and Hot Water.
Once I downloaded the app and didn't have to circumnavigate the thermostats complicated menus, I've found it to have good functionality and usability.
One question I did have: what are everyone's experiences generally with the temp set vs. when the heating does/does not fire. I.e. if you set temp at X degrees, what temp does the heating come on and what temp does it go off?
My Salus (iT500 and an iT300 due to 2 zones) works great. Turns on at required temp, turns off at required temp. One thing to remember is that the house will still keep heating up at turn-off time as the heating is on and the radiators are still radiating plenty of heat. I've seen mine go +0.5 degrees compared to the required setting but this seems logical to me.Once I downloaded the app and didn't have to circumnavigate the thermostats complicated menus, I've found it to have good functionality and usability.
One question I did have: what are everyone's experiences generally with the temp set vs. when the heating does/does not fire. I.e. if you set temp at X degrees, what temp does the heating come on and what temp does it go off?
Does anybody know if anybody has managed to connect the new WarmUp 4ie wifi UFH controllers http://www.warmup.co.uk/products/thermostats/4ie-s... with Google's Nest platform?
I've got 3 of the WarmUp 4ie UFHs and want to be able to connect them via APIs to the Nest & Protect system so that Nest can inform WarmUp re changes in the house 'away' state (ie switch down UFH when out, switch up re returning home etc).
I've spoken with WarmUp and (sadly) they said they were focused on WarmApps development, and not integrating with Nest
I've got 3 of the WarmUp 4ie UFHs and want to be able to connect them via APIs to the Nest & Protect system so that Nest can inform WarmUp re changes in the house 'away' state (ie switch down UFH when out, switch up re returning home etc).
I've spoken with WarmUp and (sadly) they said they were focused on WarmApps development, and not integrating with Nest
Targarama said:
f1_dragon said:
I have been using a Salus IT500 for about a year, for 1 zone Heating and Hot Water.
Once I downloaded the app and didn't have to circumnavigate the thermostats complicated menus, I've found it to have good functionality and usability.
One question I did have: what are everyone's experiences generally with the temp set vs. when the heating does/does not fire. I.e. if you set temp at X degrees, what temp does the heating come on and what temp does it go off?
My Salus (iT500 and an iT300 due to 2 zones) works great. Turns on at required temp, turns off at required temp. One thing to remember is that the house will still keep heating up at turn-off time as the heating is on and the radiators are still radiating plenty of heat. I've seen mine go +0.5 degrees compared to the required setting but this seems logical to me.Once I downloaded the app and didn't have to circumnavigate the thermostats complicated menus, I've found it to have good functionality and usability.
One question I did have: what are everyone's experiences generally with the temp set vs. when the heating does/does not fire. I.e. if you set temp at X degrees, what temp does the heating come on and what temp does it go off?
f1_dragon said:
Targarama said:
f1_dragon said:
I have been using a Salus IT500 for about a year, for 1 zone Heating and Hot Water.
Once I downloaded the app and didn't have to circumnavigate the thermostats complicated menus, I've found it to have good functionality and usability.
One question I did have: what are everyone's experiences generally with the temp set vs. when the heating does/does not fire. I.e. if you set temp at X degrees, what temp does the heating come on and what temp does it go off?
My Salus (iT500 and an iT300 due to 2 zones) works great. Turns on at required temp, turns off at required temp. One thing to remember is that the house will still keep heating up at turn-off time as the heating is on and the radiators are still radiating plenty of heat. I've seen mine go +0.5 degrees compared to the required setting but this seems logical to me.Once I downloaded the app and didn't have to circumnavigate the thermostats complicated menus, I've found it to have good functionality and usability.
One question I did have: what are everyone's experiences generally with the temp set vs. when the heating does/does not fire. I.e. if you set temp at X degrees, what temp does the heating come on and what temp does it go off?
I plan to change my wired stat to a Tado wireless solution. I want to keep the old stat in place so the Mrs can carry on turning up to the surface temp of mercury, but without it actually doing anything (a psychological experiment I'm looking forward to...).
Is it just a case of removing the stat wiring from the boiler and then swapping out the existing Drayton programmer for the Tado extension kit (along with adding the new wifi stat - which will be located elsewhere)?
Is it just a case of removing the stat wiring from the boiler and then swapping out the existing Drayton programmer for the Tado extension kit (along with adding the new wifi stat - which will be located elsewhere)?
ukwill said:
I plan to change my wired stat to a Tado wireless solution. I want to keep the old stat in place so the Mrs can carry on turning up to the surface temp of mercury, but without it actually doing anything (a psychological experiment I'm looking forward to...).
Is it just a case of removing the stat wiring from the boiler and then swapping out the existing Drayton programmer for the Tado extension kit (along with adding the new wifi stat - which will be located elsewhere)?
How bizarre!! Is it just a case of removing the stat wiring from the boiler and then swapping out the existing Drayton programmer for the Tado extension kit (along with adding the new wifi stat - which will be located elsewhere)?
You're willing to spend £80 quid on something totally unnecessary.
ukwill said:
I plan to change my wired stat to a Tado wireless solution. I want to keep the old stat in place so the Mrs can carry on turning up to the surface temp of mercury, but without it actually doing anything (a psychological experiment I'm looking forward to...).
...until she calls out a plumber because the heating isn't coming on 
ukwill said:
I plan to change my wired stat to a Tado wireless solution. I want to keep the old stat in place so the Mrs can carry on turning up to the surface temp of mercury, but without it actually doing anything (a psychological experiment I'm looking forward to...).
Genius! I wish I had thought of this... 
M
If you already have a hard wired room stat you don't need the extension box at the boiler. Just remove old stat and wire in Tado stat.
ukwill said:
dickymint said:
How bizarre!!
You're willing to spend £80 quid on something totally unnecessary.
Sorry, I'm new to Tado (in fact I'm still waiting for it to turn up) - what do you think is unnecessary?You're willing to spend £80 quid on something totally unnecessary.
Junked the Lightwave kit, which was ugly, with a clunky app and that seemed to arbitrarily switch the heating on or off with no reference to the schedule.
Fitted a Nest - combi boiler in a London property, with bathrooms having their own mini combi boilers for separate hot water demands. The system is not zoned, although it "sort of" is as the non-bedrooms have Lightwave TRVs with their own schedules and override events etc.
The Nest is a lovely thing to behold, sitting on the hallway sideboard, simple to set up, and the app is slick and effective. Noticeably less delay sending commands to the boiler than the Lightwave system. I love the simple, physical rotary dial control on the unit itself.
In between various new rads, flushing and cleaning, fitting TRVs and fully servicing the boiler (which turned out the be a good idea - the heat exchanger was almost blocked), this system overhaul has cost over £1500. I'll never see that money back on the heating bills, but it is nice to have everything working well and up to date. And looking nice - lacquered raw metal column radiators, with exposed, mirror finished copper pipework, some sitting over exposed brick walls, look really rather fetching!
Fitted a Nest - combi boiler in a London property, with bathrooms having their own mini combi boilers for separate hot water demands. The system is not zoned, although it "sort of" is as the non-bedrooms have Lightwave TRVs with their own schedules and override events etc.
The Nest is a lovely thing to behold, sitting on the hallway sideboard, simple to set up, and the app is slick and effective. Noticeably less delay sending commands to the boiler than the Lightwave system. I love the simple, physical rotary dial control on the unit itself.
In between various new rads, flushing and cleaning, fitting TRVs and fully servicing the boiler (which turned out the be a good idea - the heat exchanger was almost blocked), this system overhaul has cost over £1500. I'll never see that money back on the heating bills, but it is nice to have everything working well and up to date. And looking nice - lacquered raw metal column radiators, with exposed, mirror finished copper pipework, some sitting over exposed brick walls, look really rather fetching!
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