Best Wifi enabled thermostat

[Andehh]

We are biting the bullet next month to invest in the Honeywell Evohome.

2 bathrooms with UFH, these timed on/off. [Both have towel rails we will leave ''on'' so any heat in the house & they warm up]

2 zones of UFH downstairs, split between kitchen and snug, still debating whether to 1 zone or 2 zone for this, even with bifold doors between them. Probably leave as 2 zones, then have them controlled together.

All of the above will have actuators on the Manifold to turn the zones on & off, and will be connected via the the Evohome UFH zone kit.

I presume I will need 2 thermostats in the lounge/snug if I want to have them temperature controlled separately? Or 1 thermostat if I am controlling them together.

[then most other rooms will have the basic thermostatic TRVs]

[RossP]

Very happy with my V2 Tado (upgraded from V1 Tado).

As others have said, it just works.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

ive had my tado for a while now maybe a year seems to work well but my bills do seem to have gone up but i think i was warmer over the cold period than we usually were

[HotJambalaya]

I've been using the Ecobee3 for a little while now, have to say it's pretty good.

What I think sets it above the nest is the screen which is easy to type with. Online controls are pretty cool, and it integrates nicely with my smart things home hub.

Apparently I'm not the only one that rates it too

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2015/06/22/ecobee3_if...

[Pheo]

Keep having the other halves tado get stuck, thinking she is always in. Any ideas? Anyone else had this?

[Church of Noise]

We will be having a similar setup installed soonish (Sept or Oct) and I have the same question.
Additionally, I was wondering if there is a way to control the radiators centrally instead of via the TRV's (who need batteries and could make a bit of noise every now and then)...

Andehh said:

We are biting the bullet next month to invest in the Honeywell Evohome.

2 bathrooms with UFH, these timed on/off. [Both have towel rails we will leave ''on'' so any heat in the house & they warm up]

2 zones of UFH downstairs, split between kitchen and snug, still debating whether to 1 zone or 2 zone for this, even with bifold doors between them. Probably leave as 2 zones, then have them controlled together.

All of the above will have actuators on the Manifold to turn the zones on & off, and will be connected via the the Evohome UFH zone kit.

I presume I will need 2 thermostats in the lounge/snug if I want to have them temperature controlled separately? Or 1 thermostat if I am controlling them together.

[then most other rooms will have the basic thermostatic TRVs]

[papercup]

Church of Noise said:

We will be having a similar setup installed soonish (Sept or Oct) and I have the same question.
Additionally, I was wondering if there is a way to control the radiators centrally instead of via the TRV's (who need batteries and could make a bit of noise every now and then)...

Andehh said:

We are biting the bullet next month to invest in the Honeywell Evohome.

2 bathrooms with UFH, these timed on/off. [Both have towel rails we will leave ''on'' so any heat in the house & they warm up]

2 zones of UFH downstairs, split between kitchen and snug, still debating whether to 1 zone or 2 zone for this, even with bifold doors between them. Probably leave as 2 zones, then have them controlled together.

All of the above will have actuators on the Manifold to turn the zones on & off, and will be connected via the the Evohome UFH zone kit.

I presume I will need 2 thermostats in the lounge/snug if I want to have them temperature controlled separately? Or 1 thermostat if I am controlling them together.

[then most other rooms will have the basic thermostatic TRVs]

Yes, you control the TRVs (or collections of TRVs as a group; a 'zone') from the central controller, or your phone.

Not only that, you can program the TRVs to IGNORE any input from themselves - particularly useful if you have toddlers like me who wander around pushing any button or twiddling any knob they can find.

My heating is childproof!

[e8_pack]

Well looks like the tado will be going. The wife can't get on with it. Might try the evo home as it has the wife friendly controller which looks a bit easier.

Is it as wife friendly as I think?

[Mattt]

Tado IFTTT channel launching any day now

[FurtiveFreddy]

Just about to get Evohome installed controlling 4 rads in my mother's home as she can't really understand how this new fangled central heating works after having electric storage heaters for years.

Seems to be the best system to allow complete remote control in individual rooms and prevent meddling with the settings, both of which are essential in my situation.

[Pheo]

Mattt said:

Tado IFTTT channel launching any day now

And TRVs coming... But not till next year.

[RossP]

e8_pack said:

Well looks like the tado will be going. The wife can't get on with it. Might try the evo home as it has the wife friendly controller which looks a bit easier.

Is it as wife friendly as I think?

That's interesting... The thing about Tado is I find it doesn't really need any interaction once you've set it up. What can't she get on with?

My wife wasn't keen on ours till they released the bit that allows you to schedule different temps at different times of the day. Now I have set a slightly higher evening temp, she's fine with it.

[jon-]

There's a certain amount of irony in the first cold day of the year killing the batteries in my TADO and it emailing me for more.

Even the thermostat doesn't like being cold.

[SMar]

RossP said:

e8_pack said:

Well looks like the tado will be going. The wife can't get on with it. Might try the evo home as it has the wife friendly controller which looks a bit easier.

Is it as wife friendly as I think?

That's interesting... The thing about Tado is I find it doesn't really need any interaction once you've set it up. What can't she get on with?

My wife wasn't keen on ours till they released the bit that allows you to schedule different temps at different times of the day. Now I have set a slightly higher evening temp, she's fine with it.

Same here, I haven’t touched it for a year or more, it knows when were are out and when we are home, and what temperature we want, whats to fiddle with?

[paulrockliffe]

SMar said:

RossP said:

e8_pack said:

Well looks like the tado will be going. The wife can't get on with it. Might try the evo home as it has the wife friendly controller which looks a bit easier.

Is it as wife friendly as I think?

That's interesting... The thing about Tado is I find it doesn't really need any interaction once you've set it up. What can't she get on with?

My wife wasn't keen on ours till they released the bit that allows you to schedule different temps at different times of the day. Now I have set a slightly higher evening temp, she's fine with it.

Same here, I haven’t touched it for a year or more, it knows when were are out and when we are home, and what temperature we want, whats to fiddle with?

I think this can probably depend a bit on how consistently your system heats your house. The Tado temperature measurement is very consistent, certainly for me if I set the temperature right it will hold that temperature consistently with no hysteresis. It's so good that unless you hear the boiler going you've no idea whether the heating has been on or not. You just don't notice the house warming up, it just quietly holds it at a constant temperature.

If your temperature measurement is taken from a place that experiences fluctuations in temperature, due to the house layout, drafts, opening doors etc, then that might throw it out. There might be system effects that come into play too.

I would try moving the thermostat about until you find somewhere that gives you a more consistent temperature reading. Doesn't matter if it's a cold spot or a hot spot as you can fine-tune the actual temps to compensate. Then you shouldn't need to touch it.

[e8_pack]

paulrockliffe said:

SMar said:

RossP said:

e8_pack said:

Well looks like the tado will be going. The wife can't get on with it. Might try the evo home as it has the wife friendly controller which looks a bit easier.

Is it as wife friendly as I think?

That's interesting... The thing about Tado is I find it doesn't really need any interaction once you've set it up. What can't she get on with?

My wife wasn't keen on ours till they released the bit that allows you to schedule different temps at different times of the day. Now I have set a slightly higher evening temp, she's fine with it.

Same here, I haven’t touched it for a year or more, it knows when were are out and when we are home, and what temperature we want, whats to fiddle with?

I think this can probably depend a bit on how consistently your system heats your house. The Tado temperature measurement is very consistent, certainly for me if I set the temperature right it will hold that temperature consistently with no hysteresis. It's so good that unless you hear the boiler going you've no idea whether the heating has been on or not. You just don't notice the house warming up, it just quietly holds it at a constant temperature.

If your temperature measurement is taken from a place that experiences fluctuations in temperature, due to the house layout, drafts, opening doors etc, then that might throw it out. There might be system effects that come into play too.

I would try moving the thermostat about until you find somewhere that gives you a more consistent temperature reading. Doesn't matter if it's a cold spot or a hot spot as you can fine-tune the actual temps to compensate. Then you shouldn't need to touch it.

Im not home and she just wants to change it how she likes it and she cant use the app. I need something with a simple controller so she can adjust it. My mother and sister have also been round to try and adjust it but there is no user interface on the stat, so I will need something user friendly that she can adjust. It works fine in my view, but she cant use it so it needs to go. Shame because I like it, don't know why they couldn't make one with a nice LCD interface that you can control at home, only thing letting it down.

I don't want to go back to the old stat so want something that is the best of both worlds - the way things are going they will all have geo location soon no doubt, though she is always home with the baby so it's not essential now.

[dickymint]

e8_pack said:

Im not home and she just wants to change it how she likes it and she cant use the app. I need something with a simple controller so she can adjust it. My mother and sister have also been round to try and adjust it but there is no user interface on the stat, so I will need something user friendly that she can adjust. It works fine in my view, but she cant use it so it needs to go. Shame because I like it, don't know why they couldn't make one with a nice LCD interface that you can control at home, only thing letting it down.

I don't want to go back to the old stat so want something that is the best of both worlds - the way things are going they will all have geo location soon no doubt, though she is always home with the baby so it's not essential now.

But She can adjust it manually on the room stat ... There is a user interface on the stat!!!

[e8_pack]

dickymint said:

e8_pack said:

Im not home and she just wants to change it how she likes it and she cant use the app. I need something with a simple controller so she can adjust it. My mother and sister have also been round to try and adjust it but there is no user interface on the stat, so I will need something user friendly that she can adjust. It works fine in my view, but she cant use it so it needs to go. Shame because I like it, don't know why they couldn't make one with a nice LCD interface that you can control at home, only thing letting it down.

I don't want to go back to the old stat so want something that is the best of both worlds - the way things are going they will all have geo location soon no doubt, though she is always home with the baby so it's not essential now.

But She can adjust it manually on the room stat ... There is a user interface on the stat!!!

There is. But wife friendly it isn't. A nice LCD with buttons would be grand. Not only that the batteries have gone flat. It notified me while I've been away and now I have no connection. Sister went round to replace and still not working - meanwhile back at home wife isn't happy! Not good at all.

[Trustmeimadoctor]

ours still hasnt come on even though we have had the fire on twice its been cold

[stanwan]

Psammead said:

I'm considering getting a Nest thermostat for a new extension which will have underfloor heating and be separated by a door from elsewhere (and therefore be a separate zone to the rest of the house). Can I retain my existing stat / timer for the main house and just use Nest for the single zone, or would I be better off using two Nest stats, one per zone? To be honest I don't mind paying out for the new bit of the house, but over £350 for two units makes me wince a little!

A quick look on the Nest site and elsewhere hasn't revealed much - any ideas? Also being very shallow I prefer the way Nest looks as it will be on display in a living area, but if it's a no-go would any of the other competitors be able to work like this?

Many thanks!

I haven't revisite4d this thread for a while so I'm sorry if this info comes too late!!

The nest is simply a clever electronic sensor/timer that is married to wireless relay (heat link) box. The stat is merely 12v and instructs the heat link to open and close a circuit. You could in theory have the stat turn the power on to the underfloor heating mat.

Problem is that this isn't really what it is designed for, and a floor temp sensor works better. Sadly, the UK nest doesn't have provision for external sensors...