Best Wifi enabled thermostat
Discussion
AW10 said:
Do the geofencing apps use the phone's GPS or do they use wifi router and cell tower locations? And if you only work 5 miles from home can the system react fast enough?
We've had Tado v2 for several weeks. I think it uses whatever location data is available on the smartphone, which can be via GPS or a database of Wifi router MAC addresses and locations. GPS is more accurate. If you go 5 miles it will know.The heating turns off quickly and automatically as soon as the last person leaves the house, 800 yards up the road type of thing. It doesn't seem to anticipate our arrival back particularly well BUT we haven't ever arrived back to a cold house. The lowest the temperature has dropped was to around 18.5c. If the temp dropped to 16c and we were heading home it may switch the heating on so it is warm when we get back. It is just this situation hasn't happened yet. As per earlier in the thread I have been pleasantly surprised to discover how slowly our house cools. (Max 2c overnight) Sadly also surprised how much heating is required for the temperature to climb back again! (Very old boiler, not long for this world!)
The Tado has three settings that relate to geofencing responsiveness: one for savings, one for comfort and a middle setting. We are using the middle setting.
I was hoping someone could suggest the best system for me. I want to be able to have multiple on/off times (for example - so I can turn on heating on in the night for an hour) and also have control of the heating / hot water from my phone.
The set-up we have at the moment has TUV's in all rooms which are set to he correct temperature so I don't need a temp sensor as such, just a better controller. The current controller can only come on for a set amount of time once in the morning and once in the evening and look like this:
The set-up we have at the moment has TUV's in all rooms which are set to he correct temperature so I don't need a temp sensor as such, just a better controller. The current controller can only come on for a set amount of time once in the morning and once in the evening and look like this:
skilly1 said:
I was hoping someone could suggest the best system for me. I want to be able to have multiple on/off times (for example - so I can turn on heating on in the night for an hour) and also have control of the heating / hot water from my phone.
The set-up we have at the moment has TUV's in all rooms which are set to he correct temperature so I don't need a temp sensor as such, just a better controller. The current controller can only come on for a set amount of time once in the morning and once in the evening and look like this:
If you don't want any smart functionality I would just find a Drayton which does meet your needs and swap them over. Relatively simple to do if you isolate the boiler and label everything!The set-up we have at the moment has TUV's in all rooms which are set to he correct temperature so I don't need a temp sensor as such, just a better controller. The current controller can only come on for a set amount of time once in the morning and once in the evening and look like this:
But I would consider a Tado/Hive/Nest as well just to see if you will benefit from the extra features (maybe, maybe not!)
If it helps is swapped my Honeywell programmer over for a Tado and it was pretty simple. My entire heating system is now accessible anywhere.
skilly1 said:
I was hoping someone could suggest the best system for me. I want to be able to have multiple on/off times (for example - so I can turn on heating on in the night for an hour) and also have control of the heating / hot water from my phone.
The set-up we have at the moment has TUV's in all rooms which are set to he correct temperature so I don't need a temp sensor as such, just a better controller. The current controller can only come on for a set amount of time once in the morning and once in the evening and look like this:
You have a similar system to us, but we didn't have a stat - just a timed controller on the boiler and TRV's everywhere.The set-up we have at the moment has TUV's in all rooms which are set to he correct temperature so I don't need a temp sensor as such, just a better controller. The current controller can only come on for a set amount of time once in the morning and once in the evening and look like this:
We got a Nest, which works on the basis of a time period that you want a set temperature as opposed to 'heating time on' so if you want it to stay at X temp all night as opposed to coming on for an hour in the night.
Just a thought. I had a 'HIve' system installed by British Gas a few weeks ago. I am currently out of the coutry and can set the controls easily enough BUT how does it know what the time at home is? I don't recall setting it so is it automatic and will it update itself when the clocks change again in the spring?
mikeyscott said:
I am due to have a new combi installed in a 4 bed detatched house Nd am trying to work out which of them to go for, tado, n St, hive, salus and so forth. All getting confusing these days
My Hive is working very well, I'm controlling it from South Africa.Still can't work out how it gets the current UK time from tho.
mikeyscott said:
I am due to have a new combi installed in a 4 bed detatched house Nd am trying to work out which of them to go for, tado, n St, hive, salus and so forth. All getting confusing these days
Which boiler? If it happens to be Worcester Bosch then it probably makes sense to go for their Wave controller.Sheepshanks said:
mikeyscott said:
I am due to have a new combi installed in a 4 bed detatched house Nd am trying to work out which of them to go for, tado, n St, hive, salus and so forth. All getting confusing these days
Which boiler? If it happens to be Worcester Bosch then it probably makes sense to go for their Wave controller.If you don't want the fancy location based 'intelligent' system then I recommend a Salus. I have an iT500 and iT300 for a 2 zone system in my home. Works great. Never had any issues since installing. The real benefit is that I can turn the heating up/down from wherever I am in the house (I work from home, so from my desk). Of course monitoring and controlling from the iPhone app is great too for when we're away.
I don't want to turn on location services on my phone all the time as it kills the battery, therefore that kind of system won't work (and I can imagine it is equally a problem if you have a family/multiple people coming and going to/from the house). The heating not being on when you expect it to be is very annoying.
I don't want to turn on location services on my phone all the time as it kills the battery, therefore that kind of system won't work (and I can imagine it is equally a problem if you have a family/multiple people coming and going to/from the house). The heating not being on when you expect it to be is very annoying.
Targarama said:
If you don't want the fancy location based 'intelligent' system then I recommend a Salus. I have an iT500 and iT300 for a 2 zone system in my home. Works great. Never had any issues since installing. The real benefit is that I can turn the heating up/down from wherever I am in the house (I work from home, so from my desk). Of course monitoring and controlling from the iPhone app is great too for when we're away.
I don't want to turn on location services on my phone all the time as it kills the battery, therefore that kind of system won't work (and I can imagine it is equally a problem if you have a family/multiple people coming and going to/from the house). The heating not being on when you expect it to be is very annoying.
My plumber has recommend SalusI don't want to turn on location services on my phone all the time as it kills the battery, therefore that kind of system won't work (and I can imagine it is equally a problem if you have a family/multiple people coming and going to/from the house). The heating not being on when you expect it to be is very annoying.
Tado isn't behaving properly with me. It does quite a good job of keeping the heating going / night mode etc..
The issue is around returning home, it happily switches to away mode but doesn't switch to home mode until we actually get home. I thought it was supposed to roughly work out when you are close and switch on the heating?
The issue is around returning home, it happily switches to away mode but doesn't switch to home mode until we actually get home. I thought it was supposed to roughly work out when you are close and switch on the heating?
boxst said:
Tado isn't behaving properly with me. It does quite a good job of keeping the heating going / night mode etc..
The issue is around returning home, it happily switches to away mode but doesn't switch to home mode until we actually get home. I thought it was supposed to roughly work out when you are close and switch on the heating?
Mine is the same, after been in the house 1 or 2 mins the heating comes to life. This happens no matter what comfort setting i select. The issue is around returning home, it happily switches to away mode but doesn't switch to home mode until we actually get home. I thought it was supposed to roughly work out when you are close and switch on the heating?
I've not contacted Tado about this yet.
Targarama said:
If you don't want the fancy location based 'intelligent' system then I recommend a Salus. I have an iT500 and iT300 for a 2 zone system in my home. Works great. Never had any issues since installing. The real benefit is that I can turn the heating up/down from wherever I am in the house (I work from home, so from my desk). Of course monitoring and controlling from the iPhone app is great too for when we're away.
I don't want to turn on location services on my phone all the time as it kills the battery, therefore that kind of system won't work (and I can imagine it is equally a problem if you have a family/multiple people coming and going to/from the house). The heating not being on when you expect it to be is very annoying.
Would you mind answering a few questions if you can?I don't want to turn on location services on my phone all the time as it kills the battery, therefore that kind of system won't work (and I can imagine it is equally a problem if you have a family/multiple people coming and going to/from the house). The heating not being on when you expect it to be is very annoying.
Going to be moving to a detached house in the summer but am considering a fancy thermostat but not overly keen on one that's location service based.
With the Salus being two zone I presume that's upstairs and downstairs?
Can you get individual room ones?
I presume the advantage over a standard programmable thermostat is flexibility and being able to simply turn on/off the areas you want, when you want, even when you are not home and without having rigid programme times?
scottri said:
boxst said:
Tado isn't behaving properly with me. It does quite a good job of keeping the heating going / night mode etc..
The issue is around returning home, it happily switches to away mode but doesn't switch to home mode until we actually get home. I thought it was supposed to roughly work out when you are close and switch on the heating?
Mine is the same, after been in the house 1 or 2 mins the heating comes to life. This happens no matter what comfort setting i select. The issue is around returning home, it happily switches to away mode but doesn't switch to home mode until we actually get home. I thought it was supposed to roughly work out when you are close and switch on the heating?
I've not contacted Tado about this yet.
Magic919 said:
The further we go, the lower the Tado will let the house temperature drop. If it's not kicking in when you are close to home (in comfort mode) it's worth contacting support. I've heard they can adjust that feature.
thanks, I've dropped them a email now to see what they can do.Magic919 said:
The further we go, the lower the Tado will let the house temperature drop. If it's not kicking in when you are close to home (in comfort mode) it's worth contacting support. I've heard they can adjust that feature.
Okay I will do that, thank you. Went out for 9 hours yesterday (over 50 miles away) and it didn't switch on until I got home.Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff