Weed Killer- the daddy?

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Simpo Two

85,410 posts

265 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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What do you want it to do? Total or selective, residual or non-residual?

FlashmanChop

1,300 posts

206 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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I seem to remember using a B&Q last year, plain white spray.

It was basically kill all. Ended up using it at rentals to clear every bit of green from patios and paved areas.

otolith

56,085 posts

204 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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hora said:
Which is the best?
Stuff you can't buy anymore. Virtually everything in the DIY barn is glyphosate, maybe with some added germination inhibitors. Glyphosate is not persistent at all, and the germination inhibitors which are supposed to stop weeds coming back are barely effective at all in my experience.

Davel

8,982 posts

258 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Roundup!

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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If you want to kill everything then grow stuff there in the future then something Glypohosate is the daddy.

If you want to kill stuff and not grow stuff there again, then something like Pathclear.

henrycrun

2,449 posts

240 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Is there anything that can stop Ivy ?

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Funnily enough, someone asked me this at work yesterday - 'Brushwood Killer'.

otolith

56,085 posts

204 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Next time you are in B&Q, have a look at the active ingredient in the various weedkiller bottles and see if you can work out how many different packagings and prices they are selling 8% glyphosate solutions at.

If you want the premium product, 5 litres of 7.2g/l glyphosate solution in a RoundUp bottle will cost you £22.98.

If you have a problem with your paths and patios, 5 litres of 8.4g/l glyphosate solution in an own-brand "Verve Path and Patio Weedkiller" bottle will cost you £14.98.

If you have a problem with weeds somewhere else, 5 litres of 8.4g/l glyphosate solution in an own-brand "Verve Rootkilling Weedkiller" bottle will also cost you £14.98.

Maybe you've got some really tough weeds that need something special? Have no fear, you can get a litre of own-brand "Verve Tough Weedkiller" for £3.98. That would be, erm, an 8.4g/l glyphosate solution...

Or if you're feeling a bit cheap, you can buy exactly the same stuff in exactly the same own-brand bottles but with cheaper looking labelling for a bit less still. That isn't on the website, though.


Davel

8,982 posts

258 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Bloody ell!

Off to B & Q then......

Simpo Two

85,410 posts

265 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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There is another similar product, glufosinate-ammonium. But has been said, apart from those, which are good total non-residual products, all the best stuff has been banned in the domestic market.

When I wanted a gravel bed I opened out a few binliners and laid those down before adding the gravel on top. It lasted 20 years, so that's worth considering.

CY88

2,808 posts

230 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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The Daddy when it comes to organic weeding...




tokyo_mb

432 posts

217 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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otolith said:
Maybe you've got some really tough weeds that need something special? Have no fear, you can get a litre of own-brand "Verve Tough Weedkiller" for £3.98. That would be, erm, an 8.4g/l glyphosate solution...

Or if you're feeling a bit cheap, you can buy exactly the same stuff in exactly the same own-brand bottles but with cheaper looking labelling for a bit less still. That isn't on the website, though.
Alternatively, find your local farming supplies place and buy 5l of 360g/l RoundUp for about £45+VAT and dilute it yourself down to the strength you need - which is proportionately around a third of the cost of even the Verve Tough Weedkiller (and means you'll probably never need to buy weedkiller again).

Simpo Two

85,410 posts

265 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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CY88 said:
The Daddy when it comes to organic weeding...
Not really; the roots will be unscathed and simply grow back.

CY88

2,808 posts

230 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Simpo Two said:
Not really; the roots will be unscathed and simply grow back.
Used properly, it will kill the roots (and any seeds) of small weeds that most weak B&Q weedkillers are aimed at addressing.

Established weeds with a deep / thick root systems are going to need high percentages of chemicals.


Nimby

4,589 posts

150 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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henrycrun said:
Is there anything that can stop Ivy ?
Whatever you use, add a drop of detergent so it wets the leaves better - otherwise it tends to bead-up and run off.

RC1

4,097 posts

219 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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salt and barbarian (industrial glyphosate) in boiling water

Busa mav

2,562 posts

154 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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hora said:
Which is the best? I've had a few from B&Q and they don't seem upto scratch.

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Petrol.

Johnnytheboy

24,498 posts

186 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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The Glyphosate-based ones can take a while (up to couple of weeks) to take effect.

BlackZeD

774 posts

208 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Glyphostae is sh*t, the stuff in the attached link is the "dogs" and it is still legal..... as a
compost accelerator.
I used some stuff from a farmer friend, that killed everything, it was called "pastor" by
Dow Corning, dunno if you have to be a farmer to use/buy it though.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Mistral-Ammonium-Sulphamat...


Simpo Two

85,410 posts

265 months

Tuesday 16th April 2013
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Officially if you are general public you can only use pesticides cleared for use in the domestic market. Anyone who supplies 'professional' products to Joe Public is breaching something if not the law because you are supposed to be properly trained in their use.

That said, the internet has broken down many barriers so you may as well buy some Turbo Blitz Instant Total Death and spray it about at double the stated dose just to make sure.