Weed Killer- the daddy?

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Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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Or I could get two pigs.


Do pigs eat brambles? There are lots of those.

otolith

56,121 posts

204 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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Evoluzione said:
Or I could get two pigs.
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So that would be eight pigs in total?

ssray

1,101 posts

225 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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50/50 vinegar and water with salt and a bit of washing up liquid appears to be doing ok, I realise its got the leaves so I will have to do it a few more times

AdeTuono

7,254 posts

227 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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Evoluzione said:
Or I could get two pigs.


Do pigs eat brambles? There are lots of those.
Mine didn't. It was a bramble/pig st morass.

So we ate them.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Sunday 2nd June 2013
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Astacus said:
Hmm..........Me too, I was plucked from post graduatedom into the Ongar site for 13 years.
I found the escape tunnel in 1988 after only two years!

Sticks.

8,750 posts

251 months

Tuesday 4th June 2013
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Had some stuff recommended by someone in the trade for a well esablished ivy. Can find the name of if you wish but the point was when it didn't work at first he suggested we mix it with diesel. Seems to be doing the trick.

jontysafe

2,351 posts

178 months

Saturday 8th June 2013
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If its a diesel mix that will likely be triclopyr, very good on woody weeds but its days are well and truly numbered.

eatontrifles

1,442 posts

234 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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Sticks. said:
Had some stuff recommended by someone in the trade for a well esablished ivy. Can find the name of if you wish but the point was when it didn't work at first he suggested we mix it with diesel. Seems to be doing the trick.
Ivy. :rant:
I have loads of the horrible stuff around a pond and I want it gone. I've taken to attacking it with a strummer and then liberally spraying a glphosate solution over it in hope that it's all one plant and will shrivel up and die in pain. I'd be interested in knowing what works.

Sticks.

8,750 posts

251 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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The stuff Jontysafe mentioned mixed with diesel still took a few mnonths to have much effect and that's after severing it where it came out of the wall at the time.

Not very good pic but as you can see, plenty still alive under the brown leaves and still very firmly hanging on. Just hacked it off last week in the end.



Napalm might have been better than diesel.

Evoluzione

10,345 posts

243 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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eatontrifles said:
Ivy. :rant:
I've taken to attacking it with a strummer
How effective was that?









Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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eatontrifles said:
I've taken to attacking it with a strummer and then liberally spraying a glphosate solution over it in hope that it's all one plant and will shrivel up and die in pain. I'd be interested in knowing what works.
OK so if you cut all the leaves off how is the glyphosate abosrbed? You've just reduced the surface area by 90%.

MrCheese

335 posts

183 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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eatontrifles said:
Sticks. said:
Had some stuff recommended by someone in the trade for a well esablished ivy. Can find the name of if you wish but the point was when it didn't work at first he suggested we mix it with diesel. Seems to be doing the trick.
Ivy. :rant:
I have loads of the horrible stuff around a pond and I want it gone. I've taken to attacking it with a strummer and then liberally spraying a glphosate solution over it in hope that it's all one plant and will shrivel up and die in pain. I'd be interested in knowing what works.
I had to remove ivy from a 50ft x 30ft wall. Find the roots and cut out sections. Leave everything above for a week or 2 to die off and then you can peel it off. Apply neat glyphosate to the roots - completely undiluted. If you are going to spray, leave the leaves alone and add some washing up liquid to the weedkiller. If you are efficient and persistent its not too bad to kill.

eatontrifles

1,442 posts

234 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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Simpo Two said:
OK so if you cut all the leaves off how is the glyphosate abosrbed? You've just reduced the surface area by 90%.
Considering it's got such waxy leaves, I figured that by spraying onto open wounds I'd have more chance of getting some into the plant.


Much better than using an expired guitarist anyway (stupid autocorrect).

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Sunday 9th June 2013
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eatontrifles said:
Considering it's got such waxy leaves, I figured that by spraying onto open wounds I'd have more chance of getting some into the plant.
Sound thinking and you might be right but glyphosate is a translocated weedkiller - ie it uses the plant's normal transport systems to get to the roots. Mash the plant up and those systems are compromised.

That said ivy is a tough customer and would need several treatments.

jontysafe

2,351 posts

178 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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word of warning on glyphosate, if you use too high a concentration then it can scorch leaves and not translocate, work on a max app rate of 10ltrs per Ha in 300ltrs water.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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jontysafe said:
word of warning on glyphosate, if you use too high a concentration then it can scorch leaves and not translocate, work on a max app rate of 10ltrs per Ha in 300ltrs water.
Though that depends on the concentration of what you start with. You have to work it back to grams active ingredient/m2.

We used to say there were two kind of customer - those who used half the recommended dose to save money, and those who used twice the recommended dose to do a proper job!

jontysafe

2,351 posts

178 months

Tuesday 11th June 2013
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Sorry, yes that's based on 360g/l

TwigtheWonderkid

43,356 posts

150 months

Wednesday 12th June 2013
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I don't know which weed killer is the best, but from personal experience I can say that picking up the bottle of Baby Bio and mistaking it for weedkiller is not the way to go!!!

Baryonyx

17,996 posts

159 months

Wednesday 30th April 2014
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Just to bring this one back from the dead (like a weed you've been treating with glyphosate...)


I can't stand gardening, I find it absolutely dreadful. My front garden has a paved patio section, and the weeds there are starting to get right on my wick. I don't pay into the council's garden waste disposal service, but I think I will do in future as both my front and back garden have many thick, bushy plants in them which I could probably start chopping away at. I could feasibly put one or two of my woody plants in the bin, which is collected twice a month, so I could clear the biggest, most unflattering plants from the garden in just a few months.

Anyway, there are many weeds sprouting between the flagstones on the front patio. I've been spraying them with a domestic glyphosate weedkiller for a few days, and I can definitely see the plants shrinking and dying. However, ideally I don't want anything to grow there, ever again. Would an application of rock salt into the gaps between the flagstones be sufficient to make the area barren?


I think more about the front garden than I do the back. In the back garden, I have a few raspberry and strawberry plants that give some enjoyment, and no-one really sees how weedy it is back there. But the front looks a mess with all the weeds and woody plants. Could I make a solution with a high salt content and douse the soil in the garden with that to kill off what lives there? Part of what I intend to do is dig out some of the bigger, more established woody plants in the front garden. Would drowning drowning them in salt water to kill them off be useful in getting rid of them?