Anyone know about alarms?
Discussion
I manager to get in as an engineer. I then tried the laptop to see if it was allowed in or if I could allow it in from the control panel when it tries to login, but neither worked.
I've not touched it since as I've more pressing things to get sorted at the moment, but I'm happy that everything is going to work when I have the time to get it sorted out.
I need to know:
a) How do I let the laptop into the system via the USB cable?
b) How do I know what resistors I need to add and where?
c) How do I wire all the fire detectors together - Two wire from the panel?
If you can help with either that'll be great, I might have another go at it over the weekend.
Thanks again!
I've not touched it since as I've more pressing things to get sorted at the moment, but I'm happy that everything is going to work when I have the time to get it sorted out.
I need to know:
a) How do I let the laptop into the system via the USB cable?
b) How do I know what resistors I need to add and where?
c) How do I wire all the fire detectors together - Two wire from the panel?
If you can help with either that'll be great, I might have another go at it over the weekend.
Thanks again!
paulrockliffe said:
I manager to get in as an engineer. I then tried the laptop to see if it was allowed in or if I could allow it in from the control panel when it tries to login, but neither worked.
I've not touched it since as I've more pressing things to get sorted at the moment, but I'm happy that everything is going to work when I have the time to get it sorted out.
I need to know:
a) How do I let the laptop into the system via the USB cable?
b) How do I know what resistors I need to add and where?
c) How do I wire all the fire detectors together - Two wire from the panel?
If you can help with either that'll be great, I might have another go at it over the weekend.
Thanks again!
A sorry can't help with that it's not something I've done before.I've not touched it since as I've more pressing things to get sorted at the moment, but I'm happy that everything is going to work when I have the time to get it sorted out.
I need to know:
a) How do I let the laptop into the system via the USB cable?
b) How do I know what resistors I need to add and where?
c) How do I wire all the fire detectors together - Two wire from the panel?
If you can help with either that'll be great, I might have another go at it over the weekend.
Thanks again!
B it should be in the manual what value resistors you need. There was a picture on page one for how to connect it up NH1 put it up that's probably better than me trying to explain it without a picture. If you follow that you can't go far wrong.
C I would wire them as you would if you were putting more than one door contact on a zone. One resistor across the contact on each one apart from the last one.
Edited by dav123a on Saturday 21st December 15:34
Thread resurrection!
Finally got round to messing about with this again. So far that's consisted of trying various things and thinking I've cracked it, only to then realise I'd worked that out the last time and I'm no further forward.
Had another look at the smoke alarms tonight, sat down with the panel instructions, the detector instructions and my wiring notes, removed the panel to see how what was connected where, then worked out how it should go. Easy.
Started to connect them up and used a multimeter to check for the right voltages in the right place. Second detector and how the hell is there voltage on those wires? They aren't connected to anything! FFS!
The voltage can only be resulting from an output on the first detector passing through the 12v from the panel, but it isn't supposed to do that on that connector.
I've had a look at the wiring diagram again for the panel and it has written in the tiniest faded and covered in arrows writing a different arrangement of letters on each pin. WTF.
So in summary, the answer was written right in front of me the entire time. I think. Once I rewire the lot, hopefully they'll work and I can start on the rest of my issues and get the programming done.
I still can't login to the panel via USB and Wintex. Wintex rejects my user name and UDL password, and all the options other than the login are greyed out in the software. All the instructions say everything shouldn't be greyed out, so I've no idea what is going on with that. Really don't want to have to programme through the keypad!
Finally got round to messing about with this again. So far that's consisted of trying various things and thinking I've cracked it, only to then realise I'd worked that out the last time and I'm no further forward.
Had another look at the smoke alarms tonight, sat down with the panel instructions, the detector instructions and my wiring notes, removed the panel to see how what was connected where, then worked out how it should go. Easy.
Started to connect them up and used a multimeter to check for the right voltages in the right place. Second detector and how the hell is there voltage on those wires? They aren't connected to anything! FFS!
The voltage can only be resulting from an output on the first detector passing through the 12v from the panel, but it isn't supposed to do that on that connector.
I've had a look at the wiring diagram again for the panel and it has written in the tiniest faded and covered in arrows writing a different arrangement of letters on each pin. WTF.
So in summary, the answer was written right in front of me the entire time. I think. Once I rewire the lot, hopefully they'll work and I can start on the rest of my issues and get the programming done.
I still can't login to the panel via USB and Wintex. Wintex rejects my user name and UDL password, and all the options other than the login are greyed out in the software. All the instructions say everything shouldn't be greyed out, so I've no idea what is going on with that. Really don't want to have to programme through the keypad!
FINALLY got to the bottom of the smoke alarm issue. Tried a few things that made some sort of vague sense and wasted a couple of evenings, with no joy. Then I found out that there's a two-wire version of these smoke detectors, that are required to use the two-wire connection. Problem solved.
You can't actually buy the two-wire version anywhere, which is why I didn't know it existed or was required!
I've wired the 4-wire ones I have to a Zone instead and they appear to be working, just the last two to do and a resistor it fit somewhere and that should be sorted. Bought an expander so I can still connect my door sensors as I'd run out.
I've reset the system settings and can programme from the keypad, but still can't get Wintex in. So that's the next thing to sort out.
You can't actually buy the two-wire version anywhere, which is why I didn't know it existed or was required!
I've wired the 4-wire ones I have to a Zone instead and they appear to be working, just the last two to do and a resistor it fit somewhere and that should be sorted. Bought an expander so I can still connect my door sensors as I'd run out.
I've reset the system settings and can programme from the keypad, but still can't get Wintex in. So that's the next thing to sort out.
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