Show us your real estate pawn (vol 2)

Show us your real estate pawn (vol 2)

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AstonZagato

12,649 posts

209 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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To be fair, we don't know the state of the interior of the Stanmore one before it was renovated. If there is nothing left to save, then Listed Buildings can be more accommodating. In fact sometimes I wish they would be even more lax - people have changed the way they live (notably en suite bathrooms and kitchen-diners). If LB doesn't let the house adapt (as houses have always adapted), then there won't be a market for it and the house will decay further. We have had some battles with the LBO over the years about some very sensible and sympathetic stuff that makes the house work better.

All of that said, I think the Stanmore interior is deeply unsympathetic to its exterior.

kowalski655

14,599 posts

142 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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Some awesome views, but REALLY in the middle of nowhere!
http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/30666865?...


But being an abandoned lighthouse, if there are any spooky goings on,or there is trouble with an old sea captain, then Scooby Doo & the gang are bound to turn up & help biggrin

louiebaby

10,651 posts

190 months

Tuesday 23rd December 2014
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kowalski655 said:
Some awesome views, but REALLY in the middle of nowhere!
http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/30666865?...


But being an abandoned lighthouse, if there are any spooky goings on,or there is trouble with an old sea captain, then Scooby Doo & the gang are bound to turn up & help biggrin
The idea of living in a lighthouse really appeals. I see that one is disused, but I wouldn't mind a working one, until it was foggy. Blackout blinds don't work well with fog horns...

Ali2202

3,815 posts

203 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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kowalski655 said:
Some awesome views, but REALLY in the middle of nowhere!
http://www.zoopla.co.uk/for-sale/details/30666865?...


But being an abandoned lighthouse, if there are any spooky goings on,or there is trouble with an old sea captain, then Scooby Doo & the gang are bound to turn up & help biggrin
That's a really nice area. Portpatrick nearby is a lovely little village with some really good pubs. The area catches the edge of the Gulfstream so is about as inclement as Scotland gets. Spent a lot of time down there in the past. I'm seriously tempted!


Edited by Ali2202 on Wednesday 24th December 15:58

RichB

51,430 posts

283 months

Wednesday 24th December 2014
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Ali2202 said:
The area catches the edge of the Gulfstream so is about as inclement as Scotland gets.
I suspect you mean the opposite of that.

Pesty

42,655 posts

255 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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That is fantastic.

Doesn't mention anything about the tower itself. I take it you get that too?

Pesty

42,655 posts

255 months

Thursday 25th December 2014
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FourWheelDrift said:
Frankie Dettori's house near Newmarket - http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

That'll do. Needs more garaging though

DKL

4,479 posts

221 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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AstonZagato said:
To be fair, we don't know the state of the interior of the Stanmore one before it was renovated. If there is nothing left to save, then Listed Buildings can be more accommodating. In fact sometimes I wish they would be even more lax - people have changed the way they live (notably en suite bathrooms and kitchen-diners). If LB doesn't let the house adapt (as houses have always adapted), then there won't be a market for it and the house will decay further. We have had some battles with the LBO over the years about some very sensible and sympathetic stuff that makes the house work better.
But that rarely makes a difference does it. How easy a home is to live in isn't really on their radar they just make sure they are happy for their department's needs. Very occasionally you find a conservation officer who looks at the fact that you have to live there but not often.
Plenty of houses and scheduled ancient monuments have collapsed because no one was allowed to make the adaptations needed to put them back into use.

Edited by DKL on Friday 26th December 12:20

Blown2CV

28,695 posts

202 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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There is a difference between salvage and sympathy when it comes to restorations. I'm not saying everything should be preserved, but it takes brains and creativity to create a sympathetic restoration, bringing old and new together for a far more worthy and enjoyable result. I don't agree with the thought process that if it can't be preserved, all bets are off and just treat it like a blank space to fill with whatever. There should be more responsibility, rather than just "it's my place, I'll do what I want with it"

BrabusMog

20,083 posts

185 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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Blown2CV said:
There is a difference between salvage and sympathy when it comes to restorations. I'm not saying everything should be preserved, but it takes brains and creativity to create a sympathetic restoration, bringing old and new together for a far more worthy and enjoyable result. I don't agree with the thought process that if it can't be preserved, all bets are off and just treat it like a blank space to fill with whatever. There should be more responsibility, rather than just "it's my place, I'll do what I want with it"
That's ridiculous, if you own the place you can do whatever you want internally. You don't have to live there so you shouldn't be bothered by it.

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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BrabusMog said:
That's ridiculous, if you own the place you can do whatever you want internally. You don't have to live there so you shouldn't be bothered by it.
Not if it's listed, you can't.

TTmonkey

20,911 posts

246 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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Inkyfingers said:
BrabusMog said:
That's ridiculous, if you own the place you can do whatever you want internally. You don't have to live there so you shouldn't be bothered by it.
Not if it's listed, you can't.
Depends on the listing level. Lowest level they don't care about internals. When we queried ours, the conservation officers stated that they had no record of the interior of our house and had never been invited in to record it.

Blown2CV

28,695 posts

202 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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BrabusMog said:
Blown2CV said:
There is a difference between salvage and sympathy when it comes to restorations. I'm not saying everything should be preserved, but it takes brains and creativity to create a sympathetic restoration, bringing old and new together for a far more worthy and enjoyable result. I don't agree with the thought process that if it can't be preserved, all bets are off and just treat it like a blank space to fill with whatever. There should be more responsibility, rather than just "it's my place, I'll do what I want with it"
That's ridiculous, if you own the place you can do whatever you want internally. You don't have to live there so you shouldn't be bothered by it.
Ok so you're cool with someone buying a 18th century townhouse, ripping all the original features, plasterwork, fireplaces etc out and replacing it with polished chav marble, glittery fking chandeliers, mood-lit walk in showers and a bowling alley? That's fine because someone bought it with their own money? How about buying the Mona Lisa and drawing a dick on it in white emulsion? Buying ancient woodland and levelling it to build a distribution centre?

BrabusMog

20,083 posts

185 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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Blown2CV said:
Ok so you're cool with someone buying a 18th century townhouse, ripping all the original features, plasterwork, fireplaces etc out and replacing it with polished chav marble, glittery fking chandeliers, mood-lit walk in showers and a bowling alley? That's fine because someone bought it with their own money? How about buying the Mona Lisa and drawing a dick on it in white emulsion? Buying ancient woodland and levelling it to build a distribution centre?
Ok maybe you need to calm down a bit, pal. If it's within the rules and it's what the owner wants, what has it got it do with you? I like sympathetic restorations, by the way, Griff Boy is doing a top job on his place.

okgo

37,850 posts

197 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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BrabusMog said:
Ok maybe you need to calm down a bit, pal. If it's within the rules and it's what the owner wants, what has it got it do with you? I like sympathetic restorations, by the way, Griff Boy is doing a top job on his place.
+1
Equally I don't begrudge anyone for doing a modern interior for an older home. If they're THAT rare then they will be protected by listed status, so comparing a ten a penny town house to a one off art work is clearly stupid.

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

241 months

Friday 26th December 2014
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Agreed.

If a period interior, or the majority of it, is present, and the building is listed, it should be protected.

English heritage, good intentions aside, inhibit some renovations insisting shells are put back rather than put right.

We aren't all living in one room with the goat, things change.


Tidybeard

539 posts

188 months

Monday 29th December 2014
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This one is just up the road from me - can't work out whether I like it or not (electric living flame fires?) and the agent's efforts don't really help...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

dxg

8,121 posts

259 months

Thursday 1st January 2015
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At first sight this one:

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

is reasonable. Nicely done, nothing particularly remarkable about it (apart from them running out of money to render the rear elevation), and in a very nice location.

Well, a nice location for the moment, until you realise that every field you can see in view "grand view" pic (46) all the way to the trees at the top of the hill in the back ground is in the Local Plan for housing development. In fact, there's an application for the first 170 houses in at the moment...

Pesty

42,655 posts

255 months

Thursday 1st January 2015
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Tidybeard said:
This one is just up the road from me - can't work out whether I like it or not (electric living flame fires?) and the agent's efforts don't really help...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
It's fabulous.

Perfect even. Although if I'm dreaming I'd like a pool too but you can't have everything.

RichB

51,430 posts

283 months

Thursday 1st January 2015
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Pesty said:
Tidybeard said:
This one is just up the road from me - can't work out whether I like it or not (electric living flame fires?) and the agent's efforts don't really help...

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...
It's fabulous. Perfect even. Although if I'm dreaming I'd like a pool too but you can't have everything.
It is nice, even reasonably priced. Mind you I really do not like the black bathrooms, they'd have to go but then one expects to have a bit of redecorating/refurbishing to do because not everyone's taste is the same. Oh and the disco lights in the kitchen are crass.

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