Show us your real estate pawn (vol 2)

Show us your real estate pawn (vol 2)

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Harry Flashman

19,380 posts

243 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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NomduJour said:
Credit-driven bubble, low interest rates are the priority to keep the wheels on. Slow the supply of cheap credit, slow the demand, slow the price increases.

Undoubtedly. But a bubble implies a crash. I think just a slowing of the insane price rises. Even 2008-9 crash saw values decrease for only 18 months before bouncing back.

Historically, London has never crashed, despite everyone always thinking it is a bubble. The economic importance of the capital, and need for people to work here still, drives this.

We just don't have enough good housing stock down here. Make commuting from out of town both cheaper (unlikely) and faster (happening with Crossrail, HS2 etc), and you'll encourage people to move out of here. But until that time. Or when people can genuinely work from home for half the week, that will also change things - but the financial and tech industries that employ so many here aren't going to do that anytime soon, IMHO.

Another major issue here in London is groaning services. Too crowded, meaning that education and other social infrastructure is suffering. As house prices increase and government funded services decline in quality, you really are creating a city where only the rich will be able to afford to live well, soon. Not a great outcome.

But there is plenty of money driving house prices here. And it's not just cheap credit/the Bank of Mum & Dad.

NomduJour

19,144 posts

260 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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London definitely bounces back quickly (see 1989 too), there's a huge amount more money in the world now, it's a safe haven for dodgy foreign cash etc. but house prices would not be where they are without government intervention. For "normal" people (including the £250k+ p.a. PAYE lot), carrying an enormous amount of debt to support an increasingly-expensive home isn't going to look very clever when interest rates finally start moving.

Kensington & Chelsea prices were two and a quarter times the national average in 2005, now it's something like seven times. Anyway, wrong thread.

jdw1234

6,021 posts

216 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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Harry Flashman said:
Historically, London has never crashed, despite everyone always thinking it is a bubble. The economic importance of the capital, and need for people to work here still, drives this.
I really don't think that is true.

London was in a state of decline/depopulating between c.1930 and c.1987.

Thats why all those nice big houses were cut up into flats/bid sits etc.


jdw1234

6,021 posts

216 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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Sory, I messed that up.

My response to Harry Flashman...

I really don't think that is true.

London was in a state of decline/depopulating between c.1930 and c.1987.

Thats why all those nice big houses were cut up into flats/bid sits etc.




numtumfutunch

4,731 posts

139 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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jdw1234 said:
One of my favourite roads in London.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

I just dont understand why someone would by one of those St. Edmunds flats (walked past them during my morning strole on Sunday)for much more money instead of this which is just around the corner.
Nice, but more of interest to me is how did Elsworthy Road nearby get to be blocked from Google street view?

FourWheelDrift

88,555 posts

285 months

Tuesday 23rd June 2015
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numtumfutunch said:
Nice, but more of interest to me is how did Elsworthy Road nearby get to be blocked from Google street view?
You do get a few roads like that, even on boring housing estates , it's just missed I think.

z4RRSchris

11,308 posts

180 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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jdw1234 said:
One of my favourite roads in London.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

I just dont understand why someone would by one of those St. Edmunds flats (walked past them during my morning strole on Sunday)for much more money instead of this which is just around the corner.
some people don't want the fuss of an older house, they are only here a few months of the year and like "lock up and leave", they know the staff will look after it and their Ferrari is safe downstairs. no hassle, no fuss.

you pay a premium, but the spec is good, everything works, you have 24/7 staff, and a rather nice 20m pool and spa

I personally would live there (but I can't afford it) but I do see the merits of older properties.

irocfan

40,542 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Zoon said:
Davey S2 said:
jdw1234 said:
Proper what? expensive?

It's nice but I can't see £22M there but that the same for most of the property in London.
I'd buy somewhere nice not in London and commute by helicopter for that money.
If I could afford £22m I'd not be commuting to London... or indeed any other place of work!!!

irocfan

40,542 posts

191 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Justayellowbadge said:
No apologies for more highland poon.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

32,000 acres. 50 square miles.
have some serious fun on those roads as I'm assuming that they're all on the estate.....

Justayellowbadge

37,057 posts

243 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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irocfan said:
Justayellowbadge said:
No apologies for more highland poon.

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

32,000 acres. 50 square miles.
have some serious fun on those roads as I'm assuming that they're all on the estate.....
Well, until the SNP take it away and give it to a Marxist Eco-agrarian self-determinist collective to totally fking Mugabe.

One of the reasons the land there is so cheap.

FourWheelDrift

88,555 posts

285 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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You might not enjoy it for long. Nicola Mugabe's SNP unveils land grab - http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/snpl...

krallicious

4,312 posts

206 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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They are just idiots aren't they? The comments section also seems to be populated by fools with little understanding of, well, anything.

FourWheelDrift

88,555 posts

285 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Too many to post - http://www.lionard.com/ - has 5 pages of Castles for sale in Italy.

Like this


Or this


Maybe this floats your boat


Italian Zombie defence


Go Medieval

RichB

51,607 posts

285 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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FourWheelDrift said:
Too many to post - http://www.lionard.com/ - has 5 pages of Castles for sale in Italy.
Prices are a bit vague on that web site €5m-€10m laugh I'd offer them 5 then!

FourWheelDrift

88,555 posts

285 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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Davey S2 said:
iluvmercs said:
samdale said:
Just having a browse round my area.

Although if that's not impressive enough there's always this

http://www.rightmove.co.uk/s6p/49901989
The second house up near Fakenham sold for close to its £2.75 million asking price in July 2014, yes last July!
It's being sold by an international property company who clearly don't know the local market.
I think they are just chancing it at that price to see if an international wants a place close to Kate, William and baby George.
But then if someone is willing to pay, then why not.
The house itself is unbelievably beautiful. A friend lives in a house right behind it. Even at a minor glimpse, it is awe inspiring! Having that said, it's not very PH friendly with only a couple of garages, and for the money you can buy a small estate in some parts of Norfolk.

Darren

Edited by iluvmercs on Thursday 18th June 01:24
The lack of internal pics is always a cause for concern with places this old.
Dropped already from £5m to £3.95m

dxg

8,221 posts

261 months

Wednesday 24th June 2015
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jdw1234 said:
Harry Flashman said:
Historically, London has never crashed, despite everyone always thinking it is a bubble. The economic importance of the capital, and need for people to work here still, drives this.
I really don't think that is true.

London was in a state of decline/depopulating between c.1930 and c.1987.

Thats why all those nice big houses were cut up into flats/bid sits etc.
Also a consequence of the social cleansing of the New Towns project. The working class were shipped out.


Roger Woods

643 posts

212 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Todays daydream is : http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

With stables just waiting to become a dream garage...........

Davey S2

13,097 posts

255 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Roger Woods said:
Todays daydream is : http://www.rightmove.co.uk/property-for-sale/prope...

With stables just waiting to become a dream garage...........
But it's slap bang next to a gypsy camp (pic 13)

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Roger Woods

643 posts

212 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Davey S2 said:
But it's slap bang next to a gypsy camp (pic 13)

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Tee Hee, Had enough of that thanks growing up in Abbey Wood South East London!

BrabusMog

20,180 posts

187 months

Thursday 25th June 2015
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Roger Woods said:
Davey S2 said:
But it's slap bang next to a gypsy camp (pic 13)

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Tee Hee, Had enough of that thanks growing up in Abbey Wood South East London!
Ah the old Caravan Club hehe
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