Nest Thermostat - Released in the UK
Discussion
This took far longer than expected...
https://nest.com/uk/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_me...
Now if only i actually had my house
https://nest.com/uk/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_me...
Now if only i actually had my house
Matt.. said:
This took far longer than expected...
https://nest.com/uk/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_me...
Now if only i actually had my house
Just in time for the summer!https://nest.com/uk/?utm_source=Twitter&utm_me...
Now if only i actually had my house
Anyone know:
1. It doesn't seem to control hot water at all? I assume it is wired only on the central heating circuit so my current programmer would still be required for hot water?
2. It appears the wireless controller requires a power supply. My current thermostat is wireless and in the hall. I assume Nest would have to go elsewhere in order for a plug to be available.
3. Does it need to join a current wireless network or does it create its own? If current, it appears it uses 2.4Ghz and my network is solely 5Ghz making it incompatible?
1. It doesn't seem to control hot water at all? I assume it is wired only on the central heating circuit so my current programmer would still be required for hot water?
2. It appears the wireless controller requires a power supply. My current thermostat is wireless and in the hall. I assume Nest would have to go elsewhere in order for a plug to be available.
3. Does it need to join a current wireless network or does it create its own? If current, it appears it uses 2.4Ghz and my network is solely 5Ghz making it incompatible?
WTF?
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Most UK heating systems don’t even have thermostats. So the actual temperature or your comfort never enters into the equation. In order to warm up the house, you have to keep walking back and forth to the programmer, manually turning on the heat in quick bursts hoping you get it right.
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Are we that quaint in the UK?
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Most UK heating systems don’t even have thermostats. So the actual temperature or your comfort never enters into the equation. In order to warm up the house, you have to keep walking back and forth to the programmer, manually turning on the heat in quick bursts hoping you get it right.
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Are we that quaint in the UK?
I don't really see what Nest really gives you over and above a normal everyday thermostat and timer system.
I have a timer for both water and heating that has an individual timer for each day of the week which has 4 seperate timings per day; I set it to come on just before we wake up, it goes off half an hour before the last person leaves for work/school, it comes on again just before the wife comes home after her first job and goes off half an hour before she leaves for her second, it comes on again when the youngest comes home from school and remains on until half an hour before we generally go to bed.
If the days are a bit different from the norm such as school holidays or days off I just press a button which gives an extra hour of heating or water or if you are in all day you change the setting from "Auto" to "All Day"; all with just a couple of presses of a button.
And as for this staement;
Most UK heating systems don’t even have thermostats. So the actual temperature or your comfort never enters into the equation. In order to warm up the house, you have to keep walking back and forth to the programmer, manually turning on the heat in quick bursts hoping you get it right. There’s also no way to track how much heat you’re using, so balancing comfort and energy savings is guesswork.
I don't think I know anyone without a thermostat or timer; very strange.
I have a timer for both water and heating that has an individual timer for each day of the week which has 4 seperate timings per day; I set it to come on just before we wake up, it goes off half an hour before the last person leaves for work/school, it comes on again just before the wife comes home after her first job and goes off half an hour before she leaves for her second, it comes on again when the youngest comes home from school and remains on until half an hour before we generally go to bed.
If the days are a bit different from the norm such as school holidays or days off I just press a button which gives an extra hour of heating or water or if you are in all day you change the setting from "Auto" to "All Day"; all with just a couple of presses of a button.
And as for this staement;
Most UK heating systems don’t even have thermostats. So the actual temperature or your comfort never enters into the equation. In order to warm up the house, you have to keep walking back and forth to the programmer, manually turning on the heat in quick bursts hoping you get it right. There’s also no way to track how much heat you’re using, so balancing comfort and energy savings is guesswork.
I don't think I know anyone without a thermostat or timer; very strange.
Edited by HTP99 on Wednesday 2nd April 12:21
Zoon said:
Dan_1981 said:
Our house with an ancient heating system doesn't have a thermostat.
I'd like one.
Can they be easily installed or is that not gonna happen?
We currently have TRV thingys on some of the rads.
They install them for free at the minute if you buy before 8th April.I'd like one.
Can they be easily installed or is that not gonna happen?
We currently have TRV thingys on some of the rads.
We haven't one and our system is only 10yrs old. Cheapskate bodger that lived here before us.
It appears they do install them for free, if you buy before the 8th of April.
However can you use a thermostat with ANY heating system?
Ours is really really ancient, but does have a timer so I guess it must be doable?
£179 quid for the Nest - how does that compare to other wireless themostats? (and installation?)
However can you use a thermostat with ANY heating system?
Ours is really really ancient, but does have a timer so I guess it must be doable?
£179 quid for the Nest - how does that compare to other wireless themostats? (and installation?)
Dan_1981 said:
Ours is really really ancient, but does have a timer so I guess it must be doable?
£179 quid for the Nest - how does that compare to other wireless themostats? (and installation?)
That would be a question for the exisiting thread... http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...£179 quid for the Nest - how does that compare to other wireless themostats? (and installation?)
Check the manual for your boiler - there should be wiring diagrams that show how a thermostat would be connected. Our combi boiler could and it's 40-odd years old.
I fitted a Salus wireless one that cost about £35. Mains-powered unit that goes on the wall next to the boiler, battery-powered controller that goes wherever you like. Simple but much better than the TRVs.
I usually like extra-techy stuff (my bathroom scales are wifi-enabled) but I find it hard to get excited about Nest.
I fitted a Salus wireless one that cost about £35. Mains-powered unit that goes on the wall next to the boiler, battery-powered controller that goes wherever you like. Simple but much better than the TRVs.
I usually like extra-techy stuff (my bathroom scales are wifi-enabled) but I find it hard to get excited about Nest.
I have a wireless thermostat, when I go away I move it to near a radiator, this way the heating only come on for a min or two
Works well
I wouldn't mind a hive thing so I could fiddle with the temp without her knowing, leaving the old one on the wall so she can turn it up as high as she likes and tricking herself!
Works well
I wouldn't mind a hive thing so I could fiddle with the temp without her knowing, leaving the old one on the wall so she can turn it up as high as she likes and tricking herself!
Spare tyre said:
I wouldn't mind a hive thing so I could fiddle with the temp without her knowing, leaving the old one on the wall so she can turn it up as high as she likes and tricking herself!
Annoys the crap out of me that does; the wife whacks it up to "heat the house quicker" then forgets she's done it so you come into a tropical paradise when you get in from work.sjg said:
Vaillant VCW-Sine, I believe it's as old as the flat which is late 60s or early 70s. Meant to be one of the first combis available in the UK. Still working fine!
Vaillant sine 18, the very first combi I fitted, it was 1984 in my sister's house.I don't think they'd been out long. I'm pretty sure they weren't around on the 70s.
All systems can have a wireless room stat, and therefore nest/hive can be fitted,
Do these have their own web server or do they rely on a central point like the BG one does? You will just be ripped off in years to come when they start charging for access to these.
What I have found with the ones that have their own server is you are usually limited to one per IP address because they use the same port numbers for forwarding. The lightwave idea is the best because that has a central hub you port into which then controls the individual devices, its a pity they don't release the thermostat they keep banging on about really.
What I have found with the ones that have their own server is you are usually limited to one per IP address because they use the same port numbers for forwarding. The lightwave idea is the best because that has a central hub you port into which then controls the individual devices, its a pity they don't release the thermostat they keep banging on about really.
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