Outbuilding height
Discussion
Some advice needed please.
I understand that the garden room / posh shed I'm building needs to be less than 2.5m high to comply with building regs.
Is the measurement from the original ground level or the height of the building irrespective of the start height?
The reason for the question is that we excavated the site due to the slope. One side is 30-35cm lower than the original ground level, the other is around 10-15cm lower.
The current overall height of the building is 258cm which is OK if they take into account the lower ground level. Otherwise a redesign is needed
Not the end of the world as I haven't started cutting the panels but would reduce head height.
Cheers
I understand that the garden room / posh shed I'm building needs to be less than 2.5m high to comply with building regs.
Is the measurement from the original ground level or the height of the building irrespective of the start height?
The reason for the question is that we excavated the site due to the slope. One side is 30-35cm lower than the original ground level, the other is around 10-15cm lower.
The current overall height of the building is 258cm which is OK if they take into account the lower ground level. Otherwise a redesign is needed
Not the end of the world as I haven't started cutting the panels but would reduce head height.
Cheers
It is planning that has an interest in the height , NOT Building regulations. 
The height is to be taken from the land immediately adjacent to the outbuilding to the highest part of the building.
To assist you should you have somebody query the height , you would need to backfill the land up to the side of the building.
The height is to be taken from the land immediately adjacent to the outbuilding to the highest part of the building.
To assist you should you have somebody query the height , you would need to backfill the land up to the side of the building.
Edited by Busa mav on Sunday 6th April 11:58
I've had this chat with my local PCO.
As far as the Daventry lot are concerned, the height is taken from the highest section of land adjacent to the building. My ridge is 2.48m high at the back of the building, but 3.5 at the front due to the ground rising. It makes building on a slope almost worthwhile.
As far as the Daventry lot are concerned, the height is taken from the highest section of land adjacent to the building. My ridge is 2.48m high at the back of the building, but 3.5 at the front due to the ground rising. It makes building on a slope almost worthwhile.
Snake the Sniper said:
I've had this chat with my local PCO.
As far as the Daventry lot are concerned, the height is taken from the highest section of land adjacent to the building. My ridge is 2.48m high at the back of the building, but 3.5 at the front due to the ground rising. It makes building on a slope almost worthwhile.
Hmmm.... interesting.As far as the Daventry lot are concerned, the height is taken from the highest section of land adjacent to the building. My ridge is 2.48m high at the back of the building, but 3.5 at the front due to the ground rising. It makes building on a slope almost worthwhile.
I always assumed they'd take it from the lowest point.
Will go for chat with the local PCO
Cheers
Busa mav said:
Definitely from the highest point.
I specifically had a quick re read of the document to check it.
Definitely this, had an argument with the planning officer when I built my garage, she said it was from the lowest point, I suggested she go back to her office to check her regs. She later phoned back with an apology to say I was right and she had got it wrong. I specifically had a quick re read of the document to check it.
for those of you who'd like the detailed guidance, it is here:
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk//uploads/100806_P...
"Ground level is the surface of the ground immediately adjacent to the building in question. Where ground level is not uniform (eg if the ground is sloping), then the ground level is the highest part of the surface of the ground next to the building .... (ground level) will be the level of the natural ground and would not include any addition laid on top of the natural ground such as a patio. "
Please note that planning rules are open to interpretation and are decided at the local council level - so If in doubt, check with the planning officer in your area.
For others considering a big shed you might be interested to know it is allowed in permitted development rules to build over 2.5M, but only if you are over 2m from your boundaries and subject to some restrictions (see my sketch below for a simplified view).
Note that there are exceptions to all the rules - for instance, if you live in a conservation area, or an area of outstanding natural beauty, or you will run a business from/live in your shed then you may need to apply for planning. Again, the advice I was given was 'if in doubt, check'.
For my building I went for the arrangement on the left and the max height is 2.9M - this meant there is reasonable headroom at the front, but tbh it is still a too low at the back (just under 2M at the lowest point inside).
http://www.planningportal.gov.uk//uploads/100806_P...
"Ground level is the surface of the ground immediately adjacent to the building in question. Where ground level is not uniform (eg if the ground is sloping), then the ground level is the highest part of the surface of the ground next to the building .... (ground level) will be the level of the natural ground and would not include any addition laid on top of the natural ground such as a patio. "
Please note that planning rules are open to interpretation and are decided at the local council level - so If in doubt, check with the planning officer in your area.
For others considering a big shed you might be interested to know it is allowed in permitted development rules to build over 2.5M, but only if you are over 2m from your boundaries and subject to some restrictions (see my sketch below for a simplified view).
Note that there are exceptions to all the rules - for instance, if you live in a conservation area, or an area of outstanding natural beauty, or you will run a business from/live in your shed then you may need to apply for planning. Again, the advice I was given was 'if in doubt, check'.
For my building I went for the arrangement on the left and the max height is 2.9M - this meant there is reasonable headroom at the front, but tbh it is still a too low at the back (just under 2M at the lowest point inside).
The kindly provided sketch (left bit) above roughly illustrates my question...
I'm interested in a summerhouse that is over 2.5m high, this means that it must be 2m from a boundary. I would like some deepish overhanging eaves, maybe around a foot. Should the 2m be from the wall of the summerhouse, or the furthest overhanging part?
I'm interested in a summerhouse that is over 2.5m high, this means that it must be 2m from a boundary. I would like some deepish overhanging eaves, maybe around a foot. Should the 2m be from the wall of the summerhouse, or the furthest overhanging part?
Hayek said:
The kindly provided sketch (left bit) above roughly illustrates my question...
I'm interested in a summerhouse that is over 2.5m high, this means that it must be 2m from a boundary. I would like some deepish overhanging eaves, maybe around a foot. Should the 2m be from the wall of the summerhouse, or the furthest overhanging part?
Click the link given in the post above.I'm interested in a summerhouse that is over 2.5m high, this means that it must be 2m from a boundary. I would like some deepish overhanging eaves, maybe around a foot. Should the 2m be from the wall of the summerhouse, or the furthest overhanging part?
Scroll down to page 41.
Read the last paragraph in section D.
Learn to do at least a little of the work yourself, before asking others to do it for you.
I live at the bottom of a cul-de-sac off one of the main roads in our village. The owner of one of the houses on the main road whose back garden runs adjacent to my road has in the last couple of weeks reorganised the back fencing to create a large plot facing onto my road. They've put down a load of hardcore and built a luxury shed with utilities plumbed in, which has now opened as a "beauty lodge". In the last few days they've removed the verge and put in a drop kerb to a bit next to it with room for two cars.
We're pretty tight for space down my road so I was surprised something like this would be allowed. I checked on the local council's planning portal and I can't see anything about planning being applied for, let alone granted. Surely you'd require planning permission for something like this? It's a good 4 metres high, is being used solely for a business and they've essentially created a small car park next to it.
We're pretty tight for space down my road so I was surprised something like this would be allowed. I checked on the local council's planning portal and I can't see anything about planning being applied for, let alone granted. Surely you'd require planning permission for something like this? It's a good 4 metres high, is being used solely for a business and they've essentially created a small car park next to it.
I've always thought that this was a useful website https://planningjungle.com/wp-content/uploads/Part... and it does appear to be in line with the comments above.
Equus said:
Hayek said:
The kindly provided sketch (left bit) above roughly illustrates my question...
I'm interested in a summerhouse that is over 2.5m high, this means that it must be 2m from a boundary. I would like some deepish overhanging eaves, maybe around a foot. Should the 2m be from the wall of the summerhouse, or the furthest overhanging part?
Click the link given in the post above.I'm interested in a summerhouse that is over 2.5m high, this means that it must be 2m from a boundary. I would like some deepish overhanging eaves, maybe around a foot. Should the 2m be from the wall of the summerhouse, or the furthest overhanging part?
Scroll down to page 41.
Read the last paragraph in section D.
Learn to do at least a little of the work yourself, before asking others to do it for you.
ks that's a shame, and I promise I have been searching for this info!Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff