council planning notice -tips on appeal ?

council planning notice -tips on appeal ?

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steveo3002

Original Poster:

10,493 posts

173 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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just noticed a council planning application to demolish the block of garages that my neibours and i use to park our cars and build 8 affordable homes

its just a paper taped up on a lamp post , nothing has been said to residents

is there anypoint in appealing /voicing my opinion etc , and if so any tips on hows best to appeal against it

thank you

Spare tyre

9,456 posts

129 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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who owns the garage, do you have a contract to use em if they are not yours?

steveo3002

Original Poster:

10,493 posts

173 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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mines rented from the council -i think the local home owners also still have to rent thiers


parking is already crazy cramped without another 30 cars plus the new homes cars

Spare tyre

9,456 posts

129 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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i'd imagine you will get something through the post shortly

Get on the local planning portal, it will more than likely have plans etc

steveo3002

Original Poster:

10,493 posts

173 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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but id like to appeal against it as i like the parking , how would it be best to word /put forward anything against them doing it

or no point ..will they do what they want anyway?

Simpo Two

85,147 posts

264 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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steveo3002 said:
but id like to appeal against it as i like the parking , how would it be best to word /put forward anything against them doing it

or no point ..will they do what they want anyway?
Pretty much I suspect. Affordable homes are in vogue, anything to do with nasty bad cars is not. Just saying 'I don't want it' won't work. You'll need to wade through their planning policy framework guideline portal bks and see if there are any grounds for sticking a spanner in. But with the fashion for 'affordable homes' you'll be lucky I think.

Is there anywhere to park your car if it goes ahead?

The jiffle king

6,894 posts

257 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Look at your local council website and read the guidelines carefully. Some things which I've seen work locally where parking is very poor are:
- loss of parking and insufficient parking for new homes
- unacceptable increase in vehicle movements
- does not allow vehicles to turn around/move as stated in the plan

other things you might use
- over-development of the site
- roof height unacceptable compared with locality
- overlooking property which is unacceptable
- loss of light to property

I'm not saying all/any will work as I don't know the plan, but they are things you might look up vs your local guidance

Stalling tactics can include questioning S106 payments (I've not seen this work so it's heresy that it might)
Ask your councillor to ensure it is debated in committee so that the planning people cannot accept it
Get your local councillors support
Ensure that plenty of people reply
explain that you did not receive a planning notice

Simpo Two

85,147 posts

264 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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The jiffle king said:
Ask your councillor to ensure it is debated in committee so that the planning people cannot accept it
Get your local councillors support
This is a good idea. Local tinpot councillors love getting their photo in the local rag and will adopt almost any position in order to do so and feel important.

steveo3002

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10,493 posts

173 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Simpo Two said:
This is a good idea. Local tinpot councillors love getting their photo in the local rag and will adopt almost any position in order to do so and feel important.
so ..dear local councilor , ive been alerted to the proppsed development on xx road on the site of the garages , theres already extremly limited parking in this area and ----------------------------------- not sure what else to wite any pointers ?

thanks- newbie to this kinda thing but feel i should at least voice that its not wanted

anonymous-user

53 months

Thursday 17th April 2014
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Simpo Two said:
The jiffle king said:
Ask your councillor to ensure it is debated in committee so that the planning people cannot accept it
Get your local councillors support
This is a good idea. Local tinpot councillors love getting their photo in the local rag and will adopt almost any position in order to do so and feel important.
Local tinpot councillors love to try and stop things reminds me of NIMBYS wobble

Not a pop at the OP just why many things take so long to do and at great long drawn out expense.

These are the same tinpot councillors who get called "feckers" etc if you want to build anything yet your neighbour objects.
Only make objections on valid reasons though or you are wasting your time :₩

Edited by anonymous-user on Thursday 17th April 19:25

robwilk

818 posts

179 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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I would think that the new houses will have to have a set amount of parking spaces et out for them so would not add to the parking problem in the area.
I would think if you complain on the fact you use that area as parking it would be discounted uless the parking is on your deeds which i guess its not.
I was on the other end of a similar objection when the neighbours of my sons house complained about the extension we proposed for it and one of them was it would make the parking problem worse in the street, it was pointed out it was a double garage with a double drive and it was discounted from the objections. Ended up with it being taken to the planning committee and a site visit where all objections where thrown out and we got the planning. Just started building this week smile
It has to be a valid objection not just a nice to have.

Busa mav

2,556 posts

153 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Firstly you are going to need to examine what it is you didn't like about the scheme when you looked at the application drawings ,

Then state why it doesn't meet with local planning policies,

Or you could just say , I haven't looked at the drawings , I do not live in the area, but the people don't want it , trust me on this . biggrin

Simpo Two

85,147 posts

264 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Busa mav said:
Firstly you are going to need to examine what it is you didn't like about the scheme when you looked at the application drawings ,

Then state why it doesn't meet with local planning policies
All true, but my suspicion is that they pay more attention if a councillor says it than simply Johnny Taxpayer who they can ignore. In short, if you only have a peashooter, at least get somebody with a .177 spin

anonymous-user

53 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Simpo Two said:
All true, but my suspicion is that they pay more attention if a councillor says it than simply Johnny Taxpayer who they can ignore. In short, if you only have a peashooter, at least get somebody with a .177 spin
Remind me again what stops you becoming a councilor affecting decisions in the area where you live apart from apathy unless it affects you directlysmile

Simpo Two

85,147 posts

264 months

Friday 18th April 2014
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Tedium. Having to sit listening to tinpot fourth-division wannabe politicians with delusions of power wittering on about whether to spend 34p on the bus shelter would drive me insane in seconds.

That's parish councillors (well my lot anyway). Their idea of nirvana is to get a street named after them. County Councillors are another matter; get a good one on your side and it's like hitching a lift on a Panzer tank biggrin