Trickle vents in windows- yes or no?

Trickle vents in windows- yes or no?

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Eleven

26,273 posts

222 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Some properties can get away without them. We owned a big bungalow with no condensation problem, we sub-divided it into two semis, upgraded the insulation to current regs and one of the bungalows began to be saturated with moisture, the other was and remains fine.

In the problem one we put in trickle vents and a better bathroom extractor, problem solved. The dummy that rents it however still won't have the windows open even when he's hosting the All Europe Cabbage Boiling Festival.



Sparkysea

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614 posts

147 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Hi All,

OP here.

I live in south London and would not be able to open the front windows downstairs for very long. I live on a fairly busy street so security and noise is an issue. It's a victorian terrace and I will be replacing the windows so they are double glazed but look the same as the originals. However I am leaning towards trickle vents if I can close them. Having said this I don't think they are the answer to condensation on their own, as in my experience, they are just not big enough to prevent condensation... so this leads me back to reconsidering whether they are worth having!!

Thanks for the posting on the regs ...much appreciated. Appears in my case trickle vents would not be mandatory

Wozy68

5,390 posts

170 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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I really would have them, if they bother you kep them.closed, at.least they are fitted. It's an absolute pain to try to have them fitted after they have been built.
Lastly.it's.your health, small ventilation or.not, any fresh air.flow is better than.none.
Just.at the way older.houses used to built, to allow airflow, rather than today, to keep moisture out.
The old ways were.far better.

V8RX7

26,856 posts

263 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Wozy68 said:
I really would have them, if they bother you kep them.closed, at.least they are fitted. It's an absolute pain to try to have them fitted after they have been built.
Lastly.it's.your health, small ventilation or.not, any fresh air.flow is better than.none.
Just.at the way older.houses used to built, to allow airflow, rather than today, to keep moisture out.
The old ways were.far better.
Even closed they let noise in and heat out.

Sparkysea

Original Poster:

614 posts

147 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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...opinions are really divided.
For those interested please see the link forwarded earlier
:http://www.glazpart.com/products/trickle-ventilation/about-trickle-ventilators/

Still not convinced they "extract pollutants" Living in London, air quality coming in will not be that great!

V8RX7

26,856 posts

263 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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Sparkysea said:
...opinions are really divided.
For those interested please see the link forwarded earlier
:http://www.glazpart.com/products/trickle-ventilation/about-trickle-ventilators/

Still not convinced they "extract pollutants" Living in London, air quality coming in will not be that great!
I'm well aware of the theory.

Got an Hons Degree in Res Devpt and worked in various areas for 20+ yrs

I've never fitted them to my homes including my new build last year.

D_G

1,829 posts

209 months

Tuesday 22nd April 2014
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I've just changed my windows, the new ones now have trickle vents. Condensation is now fractions of what it was, you can close them if required when it's cold, I wouldn't consider not having them in future given a choice.

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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D_G said:
I wouldn't consider not having them.
Any one with half a brain would have them fitted....but then there's the odd one that thinks they know better.

I'm sure we had this topic discussed a while ago, with the same st being spouted about.

V8RX7

26,856 posts

263 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Spudler said:
D_G said:
I wouldn't consider not having them.
Any one with half a brain would have them fitted....but then there's the odd one that thinks they know better.

I'm sure we had this topic discussed a while ago, with the same st being spouted about.
Perhaps if you opened your mind you'd learn something.

Why are windows made with 2 position / night latches ?

Perhaps they work better than a trickle vent - when open there is MORE airflow, when closed there is NO noise.

Spudler

3,985 posts

196 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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V8RX7 said:
Spudler said:
D_G said:
I wouldn't consider not having them.
Any one with half a brain would have them fitted....but then there's the odd one that thinks they know better.

I'm sure we had this topic discussed a while ago, with the same st being spouted about.
Perhaps if you opened your mind you'd learn something.

Why are windows made with 2 position / night latches ?

Perhaps they work better than a trickle vent - when open there is MORE airflow, when closed there is NO noise.
Yeah, ok.

Like I said...you know best rolleyes

Eleven

26,273 posts

222 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Spudler said:
V8RX7 said:
Spudler said:
D_G said:
I wouldn't consider not having them.
Any one with half a brain would have them fitted....but then there's the odd one that thinks they know better.

I'm sure we had this topic discussed a while ago, with the same st being spouted about.
Perhaps if you opened your mind you'd learn something.

Why are windows made with 2 position / night latches ?

Perhaps they work better than a trickle vent - when open there is MORE airflow, when closed there is NO noise.
Yeah, ok.

Like I said...you know best rolleyes
He has a point though Spudler. We fit windows with either trickle vents or 2-stage latches. Our tenants ignore both systems equally so it makes no odds!

Russ_H

359 posts

222 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Sparkysea said:
Hi All
I am having some sash windows made and I am not sure whether to have trickle vents or not. Not sure if required by building control? and whether there are any real benefits in having them?
Thanks for your thoughts
Sparkysea
We've had a load of hardwood DG sash windows made to match the old rotten ones, we didn't spec any trickle vents and haven't had any issues.

You'll probably find that although the new sashes have sealing strips etc they still leak air a lot more than UPVC.


fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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I don't have any venting and just run a humidifier 12 hours a day. Retains warmth and sorts out humidity during the colder months.

Eleven

26,273 posts

222 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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fido said:
I don't have any venting and just run a humidifier 12 hours a day. Retains warmth and sorts out humidity during the colder months.
Does it also remove pollutants from the air?

V8RX7

26,856 posts

263 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Spudler said:
V8RX7 said:
Spudler said:
D_G said:
I wouldn't consider not having them.
Any one with half a brain would have them fitted....but then there's the odd one that thinks they know better.

I'm sure we had this topic discussed a while ago, with the same st being spouted about.
Perhaps if you opened your mind you'd learn something.

Why are windows made with 2 position / night latches ?

Perhaps they work better than a trickle vent - when open there is MORE airflow, when closed there is NO noise.
Yeah, ok.

Like I said...you know best rolleyes
Following that reasoned argument I'd have to agree with you.

fido

16,796 posts

255 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Eleven said:
Does it also remove pollutants from the air?
It has a HEPA filter which I clean out every few months but I do air the house during the day (by opening doors and windows) when the heating is off. I use it solely to remove humidity with minimal heat loss.

Eleven

26,273 posts

222 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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fido said:
Eleven said:
Does it also remove pollutants from the air?
It has a HEPA filter which I clean out every few months but I do air the house during the day (by opening doors and windows) when the heating is off. I use it solely to remove humidity with minimal heat loss.
Pollutants will be released into the air whether the heating is on or not.

Dave_ST220

10,294 posts

205 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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& how exactly do trickle vents deal with "pollutants". It's a house not an Intel factory.

Edited by Dave_ST220 on Wednesday 23 April 17:22

Andy RV

304 posts

130 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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Have a look here for vents in a sash;
http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/a-few-sash-wind...

The joiner has made a very neat job of them.

rufusgti

2,530 posts

192 months

Wednesday 23rd April 2014
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V8RX7 said:
Why are windows made with 2 position / night latches ?

Perhaps they work better than a trickle vent - when open there is MORE airflow, when closed there is NO noise.
How could anyone argue with the above??

The only other option are the trickle vents that can't be closed. some council properties with gas fires have them. I say they can't be closed, but i've seen sticky tape, silicone and even expanding foam pumped into them.

I must say my choice would be 2 position catches for my own home. If I was renting out a property i'd have small trickle vents. Like said though, tenants wouldn't use either. It seems anyone under the age of 40 can NOT get they're head around the ventilation/mould link.