The ebay generator restoration thread

The ebay generator restoration thread

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maybedaisy

1 posts

94 months

Friday 24th June 2016
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Hope this is ok to post. I bought a running but not generating pro user suitcase generator from ebay. I want it for my dad so he can use his strimmer on his allotment as my existing clarke cage generator is too heavy to lug about.

It runs fine but no output. No lights come on. I have a friend who is a car mechanic and he will look at it for me but I was wondering if there were any common faults to save him time.

Its this one https://www.amazon.co.uk/Pro-User-Stroke-Inverter-...

Was only £26 quid and I won £25 quid on the lottery so if its knackered its not the end of the world.

guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Saturday 25th June 2016
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Sorry, but it's unlikely to be economic to fix. Virtually all the Honda invertor clones are rubbish. I saw a test recently where an ancient Onan generator and a brand new Chinese one were run back to back, under their full rated load - the Onan kept going for weeks and didn't stop. The Chinese one blew after 22 hours!

HotJambalaya

2,025 posts

180 months

Wednesday 2nd November 2016
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Just a bump for more generator porn.... anyone?


Also, while trawling, I discovered what could be a source of cheap generators, the police auctions.

3 for sale in doncaster, zero bids, none of them above £40..

http://www.bumblebeeauctions.co.uk/XcAPViewInCat.a...

Muncher

12,219 posts

249 months

Sunday 13th November 2016
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Is this worth saving?


netherfield

2,676 posts

184 months

Thursday 17th November 2016
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Yes if only for the engine

guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Any Kohler is worth saving - they are right up there with Lister or Onan in terms of quality.

Muncher

12,219 posts

249 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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guindilias said:
Any Kohler is worth saving - they are right up there with Lister or Onan in terms of quality.
Is it worth much? It's 3.5kw I don't want it, but I have one if that makes sense and it needs to go.

guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Have you a model number for it? Electric start? Any more details? Gennys become VERY expensive during power cuts, and yet strangely once you buy a good one your mains power will never go down again...

Muncher

12,219 posts

249 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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guindilias said:
Have you a model number for it? Electric start? Any more details? Gennys become VERY expensive during power cuts, and yet strangely once you buy a good one your mains power will never go down again...
I will check at the weekend, it's in a brick structure that until recently I didn't even know was there, let alone had a generator in it. We also have lots of paperwork so I suspect the manuals and any service history will also be there too.

guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Unless the mice have been at it - in which case you won't have any paperwork left, and quite possibly no internal wiring either!
I take it it was a back-up genny rather than full-time power for anything? That would mean very low hours, which is a bonus.
Try and start it up with fresh petrol, a running genny can be worth a good chunk, whereas a non-runner is just scrap metal unless you can prove it will run and put out power!

guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Looks like a leccy start model, judging by the switch box on the RHS. I'd stick a fresh car battery on it, check the oil, give it a good shot of "easy-start", and see if it starts (or even cranks!).

Blue32

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438 posts

169 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Might be with sticking a post on https://www.smokstak.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=... they are pretty knowledgeable over there on these machines (being US made).

guindilias

5,245 posts

120 months

Friday 18th November 2016
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Smokstak are a great bunch of guys - a dying breed, literally! Lots of old men who can tell you exactly how to rewire an old (or young) generator, but they are popping their clogs far too fast.
That's where I learned how to parallel 2 3.5kW Onans (or any pair of generators) to get 7kW safely, using just a light bulb. Nice fellas, and always willing to help.

Dogwatch

6,225 posts

222 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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creationracing said:
Isn't that the truth! Since I installed my changeover switch and tie-in socket I've not had one single bloody powercut! I'm absolutely devastated! hehe
Be patient! Your time will come - just give the greenies a bit more rope.....

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 21st November 2016
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We have a fully automatic system which powers the whole house, not as expensive as you might think and we now live completely normally during power cuts (although half way through the nine hour one in April the neighbours did suddenly need to 'pop round'). Deffo worth every penny, installed in 2014 and the genny now has just over 70 hours on the clock.

And before you ask, not outer Hebrides but East Sussex not a million miles from Eastbourne, it will only get worse (but not for us). I wouldn't have a house without backup power now.

Blue32

Original Poster:

438 posts

169 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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Thought it was about time I revive this.
Since the last update I have worked on a few more generators, they all have been relatively easy fixes ranging from clogged carbs to the wrong spark plug being fitted so nothing exciting.
The latest project is another of the big HondaEX5500’s (pic from ebay listing).

It was described as running, but after an exchange of messages with the seller found it had no oil pressure as the oil pressure warning light was permanently on. I guessed it would be the same problem as before where the plastic gear that drives the oil pump had lost its teeth. The other problem was that it had no wheels so was difficult to move.
Strip down started


The bottom of the case was covered in oil, mud and leaves, think I scooped a good 2kg of congealed gunk out of it.

As before I had to completely dismantle it to get to the oil pump, once I got the cover off the pump it was as expected.



Unfortunately the replacement drive gear is on back order from the factory and won’t be available until the end of July.
While waiting for the parts I decided to clean and repaint some of bits I removed. Started with the end cover for the alternator.


Cooling fan




Cam cover (didn’t get a before)

Polished the domed nuts that hold the cam cover down

Also gave the alternator a coat of paint



The next part of the project is to sort some wheels, I started by assembling the case so I could check the wheels I got wouldn’t catch anywhere. As I was getting setup our pet tortoise decided it wanted to get involved.

The original axles from the generator had been cut and welded to angle section which ran from front to back.

The plan was to cut the axles from the angle section, shorten and reassemble with a wheel either side.
Section cut down and plates made to attach to generator frame


Trial fit

Next step is to get a welder, learn how to weld so I can get it all welded together.

SystemParanoia

14,343 posts

198 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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he's back!!

hey everybody!! he's back!!!! woohoo

Saleen836

11,099 posts

209 months

Monday 19th June 2017
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My local repair shop quoted me almost £900 to repair my accident damaged Honda generator! :O

I guess the insurance will replace it with a new one, shame as it's been ultra reliable in all the time I've had it, will it be worth sticking it on eBay for spares or should i just scrap it?

48k

13,044 posts

148 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Love this thread.

jet_noise

5,644 posts

182 months

Tuesday 20th June 2017
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Can you create your own pattern, digitise and 3d print a gear?
Or otherwise make one from scratch?

I couldn't but a man of your calibre smile