Which driveway surface and how much?

Which driveway surface and how much?

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M7 ATW

83 posts

148 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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I'm in a similar position where our old tarmac drive is failed and we need to start thinking of a replacement.

My favourite option would be gravel, but our drive is quite steep, therefore I'm unsure if all the gravel will shift to the bottom of the drive, or worse i'll struggle for traction when reversing the car on.

Has anyone experience of gravel on sloped drives?

Thanks

JQ

5,753 posts

180 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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ATTAK Z said:
This stuff is good

http://www.kbiuk.co.uk/
I like that. Expensive?

ATTAK Z

11,134 posts

190 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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JQ said:
ATTAK Z said:
This stuff is good

http://www.kbiuk.co.uk/
I like that. Expensive?
Depends on area as do most surfaces - comparable to the black stuff on the usual type 1 subbase but can be laid directly over decent subsoil if the CBR is good

V8RX7

26,905 posts

264 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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M7 ATW said:
I'm in a similar position where our old tarmac drive is failed and we need to start thinking of a replacement.

My favourite option would be gravel, but our drive is quite steep, therefore I'm unsure if all the gravel will shift to the bottom of the drive, or worse i'll struggle for traction when reversing the car on.

Has anyone experience of gravel on sloped drives?

Thanks
Gravel grid works well in such cases but you want the deep ones (approx 40mm NOT the cheap 20mm ones)

skyrover

12,674 posts

205 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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M7 ATW said:
I'm in a similar position where our old tarmac drive is failed and we need to start thinking of a replacement.

My favourite option would be gravel, but our drive is quite steep, therefore I'm unsure if all the gravel will shift to the bottom of the drive, or worse i'll struggle for traction when reversing the car on.

Has anyone experience of gravel on sloped drives?

Thanks
Steep drive? smile









Edited by skyrover on Friday 27th June 09:18

wolfracesonic

7,023 posts

128 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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The top pic: Is that feasible as a garage? I would have thought even a 4 x 4 would struggle with the break over at the top.
Just to muddy the waters for the OP, have a look at this guys site http://www.therockconcreting.co.uk/ He sometimes posts on Pavingexpert. No idea about prices but it's something different and he has some interesting views about resin bonded/bound and PIC surfaces!

skyrover

12,674 posts

205 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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wolfracesonic said:
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The top pic: Is that feasible as a garage? I would have thought even a 4 x 4 would struggle with the break over at the top.
Would-be purchaser of that house will need to be very committed in the winter, that's for sure smile

Perhaps a winch install at the top

A 4x4 should have no problems in the dry... but a car will definitely have issues.

Here's another spectacular "ski slope" driveway smile

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aBUV-QC_xpQ

Edited by skyrover on Friday 27th June 10:01

DonkeyApple

55,419 posts

170 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Yazar said:
skyrover said:
Chrisgr31 said:
eltax91 said:
OK, will do. This is the house as it stands right now: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.723207,-1.322999...

I am looking to go from the property border on the left as you look, all the way to the border on the right, taking the garden and driveway up. Then all the way down the side of the garage up to the house (the "front" side door is on the left as you approach the house)
Personally I wouldn't do all that area, or if I did I'd use a combination of surfaces. With a mass of tarmac, brick paving or whatever outside it will look like a commercial unit.
I disagree... if you do the whole lot I will give it a very "clean" look, with strategically placed pot plants to give it a bit of character.
Agree with above that never look like a commercial unit! But disagree about potted plants as they are more hassle to maintain so would not go with completely resurfaced.

I'd plan on paper and draw out the measurements needed for the number of cars needed to fit, and then leave soil/decorative combination of surfaces outside these areas.
I would be inclined to leave the Tarmac in front of the garage at it seems to be in good condition and gravel where the border and grass is to match the property on the left. And if you aren't parking cars in that area then it doesn't need a deep base and the gravel won't wander into the pavement.

Sway

26,325 posts

195 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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We're just about to have our drive done, plus the patio/paths around the house/back garden.

Initially we're going for a regular concrete, installed 50mm lower than final level. Once budget has recovered from both this and a house refurb (next year realistically) I'm going to self lay resin bound aggregate. Looks really quite simple once a good foundation is laid (which is the bit I'd hate plus I need new soakaway/drainage installed.

I assume if desired I could choose to replace the aggregate with imprinted concrete if desired?

ATTAK Z

11,134 posts

190 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Sway said:
We're just about to have our drive done, plus the patio/paths around the house/back garden.

Initially we're going for a regular concrete, installed 50mm lower than final level. Once budget has recovered from both this and a house refurb (next year realistically) I'm going to self lay resin bound aggregate. Looks really quite simple once a good foundation is laid (which is the bit I'd hate plus I need new soakaway/drainage installed.

I assume if desired I could choose to replace the aggregate with imprinted concrete if desired?
Resin bound aggregate is normally a lot less than 50 mm and I would guess that imprinted concrete is more than 50 mm

Sway

26,325 posts

195 months

Friday 27th June 2014
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Ah, makes sense. We've priced up the base at a certain thickness, with allowance for the 'rebate' to allow for the top surface to be set once we get going...

What thickness would you suggest for resin bound (as this is the clear favourite), and how does one set drainage grills considering the aggregate is permeable yet the base isn't? There's a reasonable slope on the drive so getting water moving won't be an issue.

Elli5

100 posts

208 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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JQ said:
ATTAK Z said:
This stuff is good

http://www.kbiuk.co.uk/
I like that. Expensive?
I like that too, so much so that I have just had one of their sales guys come over to measure up and discuss the product.

First impressions are promising, the chap who measured up was knowledgeable and extremely helpful. No idea what the quote will come back at so watch this space.

Thanks for posting up the link!

JQ

5,753 posts

180 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Elli5 said:
JQ said:
ATTAK Z said:
This stuff is good

http://www.kbiuk.co.uk/
I like that. Expensive?
I like that too, so much so that I have just had one of their sales guys come over to measure up and discuss the product.

First impressions are promising, the chap who measured up was knowledgeable and extremely helpful. No idea what the quote will come back at so watch this space.

Thanks for posting up the link!
Please, let us know how much the quote comes in at.

Renovation

1,763 posts

122 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Elli5 said:
JQ said:
ATTAK Z said:
This stuff is good

http://www.kbiuk.co.uk/
I like that. Expensive?
I like that too, so much so that I have just had one of their sales guys come over to measure up and discuss the product.

First impressions are promising, the chap who measured up was knowledgeable and extremely helpful. No idea what the quote will come back at so watch this space.

Thanks for posting up the link!
I've seen similar at the House Building Shows (might be the same Co. but the name doesn't look familiar)

Seems too good to be true.

What history / warranty is there for long term performance ?

Elli5

100 posts

208 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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JQ said:
Please, let us know how much the quote comes in at.
Of course, I'll be more than happy to share. The quote I'm due to receive is for approx 94m2



Renovation said:
I've seen similar at the House Building Shows (might be the same Co. but the name doesn't look familiar)

Seems too good to be true.

What history / warranty is there for long term performance ?
I'll ask and post up my findings here.

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Also interested in price.

If it's something to do with tyres, I'm in.

ETA, it says vehicles up to 80 tonnes, which is good, but I wonder how it would take a car on a trolley jack or axle stands for a week...

Edited by jon- on Wednesday 2nd July 14:43

DonkeyApple

55,419 posts

170 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Renovation said:
Elli5 said:
JQ said:
ATTAK Z said:
This stuff is good

http://www.kbiuk.co.uk/
I like that. Expensive?
I like that too, so much so that I have just had one of their sales guys come over to measure up and discuss the product.

First impressions are promising, the chap who measured up was knowledgeable and extremely helpful. No idea what the quote will come back at so watch this space.

Thanks for posting up the link!
I've seen similar at the House Building Shows (might be the same Co. but the name doesn't look familiar)

Seems too good to be true.

What history / warranty is there for long term performance ?
It looks like a good product. I would want to know how freeze/thaw impacts this and also as weeds can push through normal Tarmac how are they halted in something this porous?

ATTAK Z

11,134 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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Elli5 said:
JQ said:
ATTAK Z said:
This stuff is good

http://www.kbiuk.co.uk/
I like that. Expensive?
I like that too, so much so that I have just had one of their sales guys come over to measure up and discuss the product.

First impressions are promising, the chap who measured up was knowledgeable and extremely helpful. No idea what the quote will come back at so watch this space.

Thanks for posting up the link!
The project I've just completed using this product cost around £80,000 ...

jon-

16,511 posts

217 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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ATTAK Z said:
Elli5 said:
JQ said:
ATTAK Z said:
This stuff is good

http://www.kbiuk.co.uk/
I like that. Expensive?
I like that too, so much so that I have just had one of their sales guys come over to measure up and discuss the product.

First impressions are promising, the chap who measured up was knowledgeable and extremely helpful. No idea what the quote will come back at so watch this space.

Thanks for posting up the link!
The project I've just completed using this product cost around £80,000 ...
That's great an all, but have you just covered a path down the side of your house, or a 1,000 space car park?

ATTAK Z

11,134 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd July 2014
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jon- said:
That's great an all, but have you just covered a path down the side of your house, or a 1,000 space car park?
hehe
Yea it's a path but it's about 1.5 Km long smile