Which driveway surface and how much?

Which driveway surface and how much?

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eltax91

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9,873 posts

206 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Riley Blue said:
Grass paving is the way to go.
Yeh I looked at that. It appears that one doesn't cover the 'wife factor'. She says is of the opinion it's ugly.

eltax91

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9,873 posts

206 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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For those who are suggesting blocks? Anyone got any experience of cost? At 60 quid a square metre, with my 52 m2 estimate, that's not that bad at 3,150. I'd have thought I'm way under though?

sandman77

2,409 posts

138 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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eltax91 said:
For those who are suggesting blocks? Anyone got any experience of cost? At 60 quid a square metre, with my 52 m2 estimate, that's not that bad at 3,150. I'd have thought I'm way under though?
You are way under with that price. I would say at least £5k.

eltax91

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9,873 posts

206 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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sandman77 said:
You are way under with that price. I would say at least £5k.
So realistically:

Block paving - £100-£120 per m2
Printed concrete - £80-£100
Tarmac - £???
Gravel - waste of time and money

stumpage

2,111 posts

226 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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I have printed concrete. Still looks like new 2 years on and no weeds to worry about.

eltax91

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9,873 posts

206 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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stumpage said:
I have printed concrete. Still looks like new 2 years on and no weeds to worry about.
Any pictures of it then and now?

vikingaero

10,329 posts

169 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Two other problems with gravel:

(1) Cats sometimes crimp one off on it.

(2) It leaves a horrible tyre scarring marks on the sidewalls (we are OCD PHers after all) and if your car has stupidly low profile tyres the odd stone can catch the rim.

saaby93

32,038 posts

178 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Just to add to block paving, theres only sand underneath it so it sinks after a few years if you continually drive in the same place and you get weed/moss in the gaps but even so it doesnt look to bad if you accept it for what it is.

Gravel - if you use pea gravel weeds soon find it a nice place to grow. Look at garden centres and see how they nurture young seedlings to see why. Pebble or sea gravel with some salt in it seems to work better

Tarmac with a decent base works well. Tarmac done 'for a very good price sir' has weeds growing through it within 6 months and sinks quicker than paving

Hollow paving with grass grwoing through used near leisure centres. It seems to work , needs mowing but no experience

swisstoni

16,986 posts

279 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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vikingaero said:
Two other problems with gravel:

(1) Cats sometimes crimp one off on it.

(2) It leaves a horrible tyre scarring marks on the sidewalls (we are OCD PHers after all) and if your car has stupidly low profile tyres the odd stone can catch the rim.
Geez - how deep is your gravel?

robinessex

11,057 posts

181 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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If you go for any sort of brick paving, scour the local free paper ads. You often find small quantities for a cheap price. When you've gathered enough for the drive, just play around with what you've got to make a pattern. Also local building sites will often flog of leftovers cheap to save them having to get rid of them. Some sort of transport or a mate with a van/truck/trailer is useful. Ebay of course. And finaly :-

http://www.wantsandoffers.co.uk

http://www.salvoweb.com


Garvin

5,171 posts

177 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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saaby93 said:
Just to add to block paving, theres only sand underneath it so it sinks after a few years if you continually drive in the same place and you get weed/moss in the gaps but even so it doesnt look to bad if you accept it for what it is.
Hmmm. It sinks if an insufficient base is not put down - it should not just have sand underneath it! It should have a proper graded hardcore base on which the sand is spread and onto which the blocks are then laid. Had my driveway done many years ago and the Range Rover has left no 'dents' in it despite being parked in the same place.

As for moss and weeds - an hour or so with pressure washer followed by a good soaking of weedkiller once a year keeps it as good as new!

Nickyboy

6,700 posts

234 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Resin bonded gravel is lovely, my Dad had it a few years ago. Looked great, cleaned up great. The bonding agent also made it waterproof.

You can do it yourself with a mixer and the agent. Get the base done properly and it'll be great.

Mabbs9

1,082 posts

218 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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FRA53R said:
Presscrete certainly works well, but as you said is lethal when cold and wet. I once found my car two feet further down the drive after I 'Parked' it on my driveway during the winter.

Gravel is the best option, though as many have mentioned you will still have to stay on top of weeding.

Don't go with a brick driveway, we had ours done very professionally but even then it still ended up with dips and that's far more irritating than getting a ton of gravel to rake over the place.
I'm sorry to say that if it ended up with dips then it wasn't done very professionally. They skimped on the base and did a crap job. pavingexpert.com shows how it should be done.

Edited by Mabbs9 on Sunday 22 June 14:03

DonkeyApple

55,265 posts

169 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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At the end of the day the surface should logically be determined by what looks right for the property and surroundings.

Where people make their mistake is in not investing in the foundations. Chuck your money at that and get that 100% and anything you put on top will survive.

If people have bricks that are now uneven it isn't the bricks but poor foundations.

Get the bit that no one sees correct and then worry about the bit the people do see including yourselves. Nothing pikier than an expensive surface that fails after a few years because all the money was spent on that and not what's underneath.

SuperHangOn

3,486 posts

153 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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I need one done as well, I'm more worried about who's going to do it than the surface.

If it was flat I would hire a mini-digger and do it myself with a massively over-engineered foundation. The gradient is quite steep so I could see myself having a nightmare though.

Forget gravel.

Edited by SuperHangOn on Sunday 22 June 16:22

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Concrete is the best long term solution.

Asphalt will deteriorate far more quickly, especially if fluids are leaked onto it.

radiodanno

1,055 posts

130 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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Must be just me that loves the gravel.

The incredible roar of stones under rubber evokes images of middle England and a gentle time. My second favorite sound after a ransomes lawnmower gently buzzing away in the distance.

Yes I have a gravel drive, yes it needs a rake and a sweep but it suits the house and is great value against other options.

Oh, and it's a good setting for car sale pics.

skyrover

12,671 posts

204 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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radiodanno said:
Must be just me that loves the gravel.

The incredible roar of stones under rubber evokes images of middle England and a gentle time. My second favorite sound after a ransomes lawnmower gently buzzing away in the distance.

Yes I have a gravel drive, yes it needs a rake and a sweep but it suits the house and is great value against other options.

Oh, and it's a good setting for car sale pics.
I like the look of gravel drives... but they are a real pain in the arse (literally) if you ever work on your own car.

Can't slide your jack or trolley about, and your behind and back end up full of pebbles.

And if you drop a bolt/nut, you probably aren't going to find it again.

JakeT

5,428 posts

120 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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I have gravel and have had no issues mentioned here. I do live at the end of a close and in the country so it works. When you see weeds spray/pull them? A front lawn seems to be going amiss on many houses now too as people just pave it instead.

nails1979

597 posts

141 months

Sunday 22nd June 2014
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I did mine with blocks. Just over 70 square meters was some where around £2200.
That was to remove previous laid concrete and almost a foot of soil as it was too high against the house.
Only problems I have is the moss/grass and it has sank in one area. I reckon its because when we dug it up to lay the next door neighbour had removed their outside toilet and knocked the end closed on a lead pipe. It had been leaking for years underneath which meant more had to be dug out and more hardcore laid in. I now think we should of let it dry out for a few weeks before laying. Its not too bad though and most of time theres a car parked on it which helps also.
Another problem is when you jetwash them clean and degrass them you blow the sand out from inbetween and underneath.
I'd still go for them again though. The printed concrete looks nice but the risk of cracking is too high. The inlaws has cracked already and like all paving company's its disappeared or rather rebranded so you can't trace it.
Blocks worked out cheaper for me aswell.