Which driveway surface and how much?

Which driveway surface and how much?

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Ledaig

1,696 posts

263 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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anonymous said:
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Maybe so, but it's what he'll be charged for!

wink

ATTAK Z

11,134 posts

190 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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anonymous said:
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Chuckled

dave123456

1,856 posts

148 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Monkeylegend said:
As it happens I have 52m x 52m of ashphalt left over from a job round the corner I have just finished.

Cheers Paddy.
lovely, with a few white chippings in....

FlipFlopGriff

7,144 posts

248 months

Tuesday 24th June 2014
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Herbs said:
Yes - I looked into this and nearly had a heart attack at the cost. After pricing up a drive and garden path, I decided i'll get the garden path done at a later date as the cost came out at £400 just for the sett's for a 4m*1m path .
Last for ever though. Did you infill the gaps with tar or concrete?
FFG

AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

201 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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V8RX7 said:
I have used them (or at least an identical looking version) as I had to have a ramp to my front door (new build regs)

They work well but are completely unnecessary for a flat ish drive.
How so? Their purpose is to restrict gravel migration and prevent sinkage. Why would that not be useful on a flat drive? It's reinforced gravel, not slope stability gravel.

worsy

5,812 posts

176 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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V8RX7 said:
skilly1 said:
worsy said:
Dig out
Sand compacted
These - http://www.matsgrids.co.uk/
Gravel

Job Jobbed.
Anybody got any comments on this system, look pretty good.
I have used them (or at least an identical looking version) as I had to have a ramp to my front door (new build regs)

They work well but are completely unnecessary for a flat ish drive.
I ordered a pallet for my drive but only used about 12 sq metres. If local, bargain to be had. Am in Shrops.


AlmostUseful said:
V8RX7 said:
I have used them (or at least an identical looking version) as I had to have a ramp to my front door (new build regs)

They work well but are completely unnecessary for a flat ish drive.
How so? Their purpose is to restrict gravel migration and prevent sinkage. Why would that not be useful on a flat drive? It's reinforced gravel, not slope stability gravel.
This. They are excellent, will take the weight of a lorry, compacted they simply don't move. The sound of gravel is also muted which helps with the neighbours too.

V8RX7

26,905 posts

264 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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AlmostUseful said:
V8RX7 said:
I have used them (or at least an identical looking version) as I had to have a ramp to my front door (new build regs)

They work well but are completely unnecessary for a flat ish drive.
How so? Their purpose is to restrict gravel migration and prevent sinkage. Why would that not be useful on a flat drive? It's reinforced gravel, not slope stability gravel.
If you construct a gravel drive correctly with compacted hardcore topped with MOT then there is NO sinkage nor migration as the gravel layer is thin.

Chrisgr31

13,488 posts

256 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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eltax91 said:
OK, will do. This is the house as it stands right now: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.723207,-1.322999...

I am looking to go from the property border on the left as you look, all the way to the border on the right, taking the garden and driveway up. Then all the way down the side of the garage up to the house (the "front" side door is on the left as you approach the house)
Personally I wouldn't do all that area, or if I did I'd use a combination of surfaces. With a mass of tarmac, brick paving or whatever outside it will look like a commercial unit.

skyrover

12,674 posts

205 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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Chrisgr31 said:
eltax91 said:
OK, will do. This is the house as it stands right now: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.723207,-1.322999...

I am looking to go from the property border on the left as you look, all the way to the border on the right, taking the garden and driveway up. Then all the way down the side of the garage up to the house (the "front" side door is on the left as you approach the house)
Personally I wouldn't do all that area, or if I did I'd use a combination of surfaces. With a mass of tarmac, brick paving or whatever outside it will look like a commercial unit.
I disagree... if you do the whole lot I will give it a very "clean" look, with strategically placed pot plants to give it a bit of character.

Yazar

1,476 posts

121 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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skyrover said:
Chrisgr31 said:
eltax91 said:
OK, will do. This is the house as it stands right now: https://www.google.co.uk/maps/@52.723207,-1.322999...

I am looking to go from the property border on the left as you look, all the way to the border on the right, taking the garden and driveway up. Then all the way down the side of the garage up to the house (the "front" side door is on the left as you approach the house)
Personally I wouldn't do all that area, or if I did I'd use a combination of surfaces. With a mass of tarmac, brick paving or whatever outside it will look like a commercial unit.
I disagree... if you do the whole lot I will give it a very "clean" look, with strategically placed pot plants to give it a bit of character.
Agree with above that never look like a commercial unit! But disagree about potted plants as they are more hassle to maintain so would not go with completely resurfaced.

I'd plan on paper and draw out the measurements needed for the number of cars needed to fit, and then leave soil/decorative combination of surfaces outside these areas.

AlmostUseful

3,282 posts

201 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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V8RX7 said:
AlmostUseful said:
V8RX7 said:
I have used them (or at least an identical looking version) as I had to have a ramp to my front door (new build regs)

They work well but are completely unnecessary for a flat ish drive.
How so? Their purpose is to restrict gravel migration and prevent sinkage. Why would that not be useful on a flat drive? It's reinforced gravel, not slope stability gravel.
If you construct a gravel drive correctly with compacted hardcore topped with MOT then there is NO sinkage nor migration as the gravel layer is thin.
Deep down though, you know that's not true. Reinforced gravel will also allow your children to cycle on it and women (or men) to walk on it in high heels. Even a thinly laid section of loose gravel won't allow that.

ILOVEWATCHES

186 posts

124 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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I like the glued/compressed pea shingle but i think its expensive

FiF

44,144 posts

252 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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swisstoni said:
I love a bit of gravel too. Over a certain size, a driveway of any other method is prohibitively expensive. Agree it can look weird in the urban environment but out in the sticks the opposite is true IMHO. Weeds can be sprayed and die away to nothing. Plus it is self cleaning.

Yes it is a nuisance if you have to work on a car standing on it though - ideally you would have a bit of hard surface somewhere for that.
This. I went for the combination of decent tarmac bordered by paving blocks with the rest of the front stone chips laid over a proper base and a membrane. A decent spray and a rake sorts it. The chips being very angular as opposed to smooth gravel means that if you want to drive over it you don't sink in. For some reason they aren't an issue with pick up in tyre treads but the ones that stray onto the tarmac cause very bad language if you kneel on them or just nip out to get something from the car in socks. Mixture of black basalt and red terracotta (not quite sure what rock the terracotta is. It's definitely stone not terracotta as in pottery terracotta.) The tarmac was by a known contractor using stone mastic asphalt where I could go and look at work they had done recently and some time previously.

This way we have a decent standing for three / four vehicles. Plus occasional standing for another couple at a push with the opportunity to break up with plantings of bushes and a funking maple tree that's beautiful but doing my head in controlling the mildew in wet summers.

V8RX7

26,905 posts

264 months

Wednesday 25th June 2014
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AlmostUseful said:
V8RX7 said:
AlmostUseful said:
V8RX7 said:
I have used them (or at least an identical looking version) as I had to have a ramp to my front door (new build regs)

They work well but are completely unnecessary for a flat ish drive.
How so? Their purpose is to restrict gravel migration and prevent sinkage. Why would that not be useful on a flat drive? It's reinforced gravel, not slope stability gravel.
If you construct a gravel drive correctly with compacted hardcore topped with MOT then there is NO sinkage nor migration as the gravel layer is thin.
Deep down though, you know that's not true. Reinforced gravel will also allow your children to cycle on it and women (or men) to walk on it in high heels. Even a thinly laid section of loose gravel won't allow that.
No it is true.

However you're now adding requirements - I don't wear high heels but I don't think they'd fair well on the grid either.

My kids cycle up the drive - but yes they wouldn't really cycle around it all day - which is a positive as my cars are parked on it. wink

The grid has it's uses but for a flat domestic drive it simply isn't needed IME it is also quite expensive for what it is.

Maty

1,233 posts

214 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Reading this thread with interest...

We have this to contend with after moving in a few months ago it's next on the hit list:



The first part is quite steep as can be seen from the fence at the side. As an example I can only just get my Saab estate over the top, it's mm away from scraping the exhaust when reversing on. The sloped bit is concrete, cracked and generally st. The flat bit is paving slabs, uneven, cracked and generally st.

I had wanted imprinted concrete but going off the slippy comments I think its a very bad idea with the slope, even if it wears off after a few years, also worried about the drainage element. We then thought about block paving but again with the slope I'm worried about it cracking/moving. Gravel is a none starter. Wife doesn't like tarmac. Which only leaves this resin bonded stuff, which I really like, will it work on the slope/flat transition?

The house had drainage issues on the front corner a few years ago and the subsequently all the drains were ripped out and replaced, there are now a few man holes along the drive, I presume these are just accounted for in the resin bonded stuff and not sealed over?


spikey78

701 posts

182 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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^ that's the exact same problem I've got-cant decide what to do with it so I'm interested in any suggestions..

Zippee

13,475 posts

235 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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e have approx 50sq m's of block to be done - double width driveway approx just over a car length in depth plus a pathway down the side of the garage and an extension of the driveway into the exitins front garden. With removal of existing concrete and tarmac and going to a depth of 250mm plus large rustic tumbled blocks we are having it done for £4500 plus VAT. Original quote was for about a grand more but as we've just used the company to landscape our back garden they've done us a deal for both.

bakerstreet

4,766 posts

166 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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eliot said:
My neighbor has something like this down - possibly slightly larger limestone, but the main thing is that it doesn't get stuck in the tyres or migrate into the road:


Edited by eliot on Monday 23 June 10:57
I'm looking at this a viable option for a our driveway. We had the entrance done in Tarmac a few years ago to stop the small gravel escaping. It kinda works, but the gravel gets stuck in the tyres and scratches circles in the tarmac. We have to do a lot of maneuvering to get out of our driveway.

The large gravel option works out at about £1500 if I excavate myself and put down a membrane and then the mesh to hold all the gravel. Should look much better than the nasty small stone gravel we have now

C. Grimsley

1,364 posts

196 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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Well started on mine, this is where we are at at the minute, going for the imprinted concrete, I have to say the creme bonded stones do look well earlier in the thread.





Carl

ATTAK Z

11,134 posts

190 months

Thursday 26th June 2014
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This stuff is good

http://www.kbiuk.co.uk/