Green Deal energy saving grants/cash back

[MLH]

The folks had a rep come out today to measure up their place for external wall insulation.

They have been informed that all the work (the insulating) will be 100% free of charge. The only cost they have to pay is £1k for the hacking off of the old render and a skip.

Ive got the same guy coming to my place tomorrow to measure up and hopefully tell me that it will all be done for free.

However, im having doubts as the old addage goes....if it seems to good to be true it most probably is.

Ive done some searching and still none the wiser. Some sites are saying you pay the cost back over time with the it being added to your electricity bill, others are saying you can claim up to 75% of the cpst back but this guy was saying its 100% free.

Can anyone shed some light on this? or have any advice?

Much appreciated, Mat.

[ch427]

My father had it done last year and it was free, a lot of the houses in our area did too. They called that phase 1 which im guessing was some sort of trial run to see how it went.
I cant answer your questions about the paying it back part but i was told when i enquired for my house last month that up to 75% of the install cost can be covered with a grant. The assessor stated that 50% of the house would need to be covered in able to get it though.

[dickymint]

http://www.theguardian.com/money/2014/jan/18/green...

[essayer]

I've been toying with this for a while but it seems that in recent weeks a new scheme has surfaced where the government contributes up to 75% of the EWI cost, up to £6000.
Also £500 extra if you purchased in the last year.
So I'm sure the companies will all charge £8000 for the privelige

[Renovation]

I called around on this as it changed recently.

From what I can see (and I hope I'm wrong) you HAVE to use "approved contractors" they are so expensive that even after you've had cashback that you could have done it cheaper.

[scenario8]

944fan is the resident Green Deal expert. I'd give him a pm if I were you.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/profile.asp?mem...

[Renovation]

I'd welcome his or anyone else's input on here.

I have recently bought my house and it needs everything from a new boiler to solid wall insulation and new windows

[dickymint]

Renovation said:

I'd welcome his or anyone else's input on here.

I have recently bought my house and it needs everything from a new boiler to solid wall insulation and new windows

Well I'd rather you'd get your wallet out and sort it as opposed to hiking up my energy bills

[Renovation]

dickymint said:

Renovation said:

I'd welcome his or anyone else's input on here.

I have recently bought my house and it needs everything from a new boiler to solid wall insulation and new windows

Well I'd rather you'd get your wallet out and sort it as opposed to hiking up my energy bills

I've already paid for ch427's Dad's

so I'd like you to pay for mine.

[ch427]

Renovation said:

I've already paid for ch427's Dad's

so I'd like you to pay for mine.

Thanks it was much appreciated.

[MLH]

Right chaps, the guy has just been around to measure up and see what i can have.

From what i can gather this particular company's threshold is 40m2 of external insulation. Anything more than that comes at an extra cost.

I asked a million and one questions to the guy, even asked about how much commission he gets, and all questions were answered in a 'made sense' kind of way. He also stated that theres enough money in 'the pot' to do 120,000 houses on a first come first served basis.

From what i can gather the 40m2 limit is to ensure they make money from the deal. A quick look online shows the cost being at around £45 per m2.

40m2 x £45 = £1800

The grant is valued at £6000. So in theory youre not having £6000 of work done but more along the lines of £2000ish. The canvassers company is then pocketing the left over £4k (all figures are estimates).

Anyway, all signed up for and will hopefully have it completed within 6 weeks and will report back with findings.

Edited by MLH on Saturday 12th July 13:54

[essayer]

MLH said:

From what i can gather the 40m2 limit is to ensure they make money from the deal. A quick look online shows the cost being at around £45 per m2.

I was quoted £90/sqm for EWI based on 90mm EPS finished in white.

Also consider
+accessories (extensions for window sills £40 each, air bricks, downpipes etc)
+scaffolding
+waste disposal
VAT
etc

Make sure he gives a full quote in writing first!

[andy43]

Renovation said:

dickymint said:

Renovation said:

I'd welcome his or anyone else's input on here.

I have recently bought my house and it needs everything from a new boiler to solid wall insulation and new windows

Well I'd rather you'd get your wallet out and sort it as opposed to hiking up my energy bills

I've already paid for ch427's Dad's

so I'd like you to pay for mine.

You can get the GDHIF now - a grant of £1600 along with £100 cash back and an 8 year warranty on a Vaillant with gas saver. The size of the grant actually means dickymint is paying more than half the total cost - which is very kind of him
Info here

[dickymint]

andy43 said:

Renovation said:

dickymint said:

Renovation said:

I'd welcome his or anyone else's input on here.

I have recently bought my house and it needs everything from a new boiler to solid wall insulation and new windows

Well I'd rather you'd get your wallet out and sort it as opposed to hiking up my energy bills

I've already paid for ch427's Dad's

so I'd like you to pay for mine.

You can get the GDHIF now - a grant of £1600 along with £100 cash back and an 8 year warranty on a Vaillant with gas saver. The size of the grant actually means dickymint is paying more than half the total cost - which is very kind of him
Info here

Hope you all fail the assessment - that you have to pay up front for :P

[Renovation]

dickymint said:

Hope you all fail the assessment - that you have to pay up front for :P

Yes that sounded alarm bells for me - you want me to pay, for you to decide, if I'm getting free stuff.

[Dave211]

Was just about to post same query re external insulation, as just bought an old vicarage that needs complete renovation.

From this link it appears you have to use approved installers as suggested above :- http://gdorb.decc.gov.uk/find-a-green-deal-supplie...

Right, better get phoning round for some quotes.

D.

[dickymint]

I really disagree with anything "green" that is subsidised to the extent that helps towards fuel poverty especially the elderly.

But just for you lot i'll post this from todays Telegraph..............

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance...

[Dave211]

So one month to get a claim in. Thanks for heads up.

[herewego]

Are these actual grants now or are they still 7% loans paid for through energy bills?

[Dave211]

dickymint said:

I really disagree with anything "green" that is subsidised to the extent that helps towards fuel poverty especially the elderly.

Understand the sentiment, but I can imagine this grant fund has as much linked to fuel poverty as road fund license has linked to maintaining roads.