Green Deal energy saving grants/cash back

Green Deal energy saving grants/cash back

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Dave211

1,670 posts

181 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Renovation said:
Yes that sounded alarm bells for me - you want me to pay, for you to decide, if I'm getting free stuff.
If your EPC is less than 2 years old I don't believe you need to pay for a survey ?

TheInternet

4,717 posts

163 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Dave211 said:
From this link it appears you have to use approved installers as suggested above :- http://gdorb.decc.gov.uk/find-a-green-deal-supplie...
Good link, shame there are no approved installers for what I want. What a pile of st.

Renovation

1,763 posts

121 months

Sunday 13th July 2014
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Dave211 said:
dickymint said:
I really disagree with anything "green" that is subsidised to the extent that helps towards fuel poverty especially the elderly.
Understand the sentiment, but I can imagine this grant fund has as much linked to fuel poverty as road fund license has linked to maintaining roads.
No - Dicky is correct the Govt forced Energy Cos to subsidise these deals which of course they funded by increasing their bills.


herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Renovation said:
Dave211 said:
dickymint said:
I really disagree with anything "green" that is subsidised to the extent that helps towards fuel poverty especially the elderly.
Understand the sentiment, but I can imagine this grant fund has as much linked to fuel poverty as road fund license has linked to maintaining roads.
No - Dicky is correct the Govt forced Energy Cos to subsidise these deals which of course they funded by increasing their bills.

However the Energy Company Obligation is specifically to help those in fuel poverty, including the elderly.

dickymint

24,339 posts

258 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Yazar said:
rofl you've just posted the link I thought I'd posted.

dickymint

24,339 posts

258 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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...... In fact you did confused

Yazar

1,476 posts

120 months

Monday 14th July 2014
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Yazar said:
Doh! boxedin


I read the torygraph then this thread and your first link and only skimmed rest of the thread biggrin.


Dave211

1,670 posts

181 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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So got the voucher for £6500 this morning, although quote for external wall insulation has worked out at £17k, so 20 year payback from heating savings.

CoolHands

18,633 posts

195 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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so basically we're all paying over the odds to a load of dodgy double-glazing type companies to do what should be up to the home owner to fork out for?

hardy conservative ideology is it? Free market NOT at play....

andy43

9,722 posts

254 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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We all agreed to all the carbon reduction stuff, so we all have to pay for it. Didn't you get the memo?
Oh, wait...

Renovation

1,763 posts

121 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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CoolHands said:
so basically we're all paying over the odds to a load of dodgy double-glazing type companies to do what should be up to the home owner to fork out for?
Exactly.

I looked at the figures it's simply cheaper to do the work without the grant.

T4NG0

1,670 posts

181 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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Renovation said:
Exactly.

I looked at the figures it's simply cheaper to do the work without the grant.
Was this based on external insulation , or internal ?

Renovation

1,763 posts

121 months

Monday 4th August 2014
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T4NG0 said:
Renovation said:
Exactly.

I looked at the figures it's simply cheaper to do the work without the grant.
Was this based on external insulation , or internal ?
I needed everything.

I have decided against external (I have solid walls upstairs) and am going for internal despite also intending to render - I simply don't like the theory of external render and feel it will crack long term - I also want to keep the windows & soffit etc as they are.

MLH

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406 posts

123 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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Update time and looking for some of your views on a 'situation'....

I went ahead and applied for the external wall insulation with the same energy company/agency that had quoted my folks.

They took a £1000 deposit off and then set the ball rolling. Not too long after it i had an email from the Government side of things saying my green deal voucher application was being processed. This was followed up a week or two later with an email containing the actual voucher.

So i then inform the energy company that the voucher has been approved.With that they then started programming the work in. Our area was/is the last area that they are doing so it has taken a bit longer than originally anticipated.

So i was going with the flow as im in no rush really (although it would be nice to have it done before the cold weather sets in) and then had a call at the door today from one of the reps with a chip and pin machine saying they want £3000 up front for the materials and scaffolding. It caught me slightly unaware so told him i cant pay today and that ill contact them monday.

After he left i read the quote that i had been given originally. I was told that the original deposit of £1000 was to cover the cost of scaffolding and that the remaining sum i would pay after the work has been completed and i have cashed in the voucher. Also in the terms and conditions it states that any interval payments will be listed over leaf (on the quote) to which none were.

Apparently many customers have been reluctant to hand over the cash after the work has been done and they have cashed in the vouchers and it seems the energy company are asking for the £3000 up front to try and combat this. That said im not happy about it myself.

So i put it to the PH massive to get your opinion. Would you hand over another few £3000 prior to the work when it was never originally agreed?




Renovation

1,763 posts

121 months

Friday 31st October 2014
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MLH said:
Update time and looking for some of your views on a 'situation'....

I went ahead and applied for the external wall insulation with the same energy company/agency that had quoted my folks.

They took a £1000 deposit off and then set the ball rolling. Not too long after it i had an email from the Government side of things saying my green deal voucher application was being processed. This was followed up a week or two later with an email containing the actual voucher.

So i then inform the energy company that the voucher has been approved.With that they then started programming the work in. Our area was/is the last area that they are doing so it has taken a bit longer than originally anticipated.

So i was going with the flow as im in no rush really (although it would be nice to have it done before the cold weather sets in) and then had a call at the door today from one of the reps with a chip and pin machine saying they want £3000 up front for the materials and scaffolding. It caught me slightly unaware so told him i cant pay today and that ill contact them monday.

After he left i read the quote that i had been given originally. I was told that the original deposit of £1000 was to cover the cost of scaffolding and that the remaining sum i would pay after the work has been completed and i have cashed in the voucher. Also in the terms and conditions it states that any interval payments will be listed over leaf (on the quote) to which none were.

Apparently many customers have been reluctant to hand over the cash after the work has been done and they have cashed in the vouchers and it seems the energy company are asking for the £3000 up front to try and combat this. That said im not happy about it myself.

So i put it to the PH massive to get your opinion. Would you hand over another few £3000 prior to the work when it was never originally agreed?
If it is a large well known Co. and I get a written receipt stating the schedule of works then I would - BY CREDIT CARD as then I'm protected regardless.