LED Strip Lights

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PAULJ5555

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3,554 posts

177 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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I will need to get about 10-15 meters of those LED strip lights that create an up light effect on the walls/ceiling. The type you can change the color with a remote.

I had a quick look on ebay and there are loads on there prices from about £20, are these any good and will they light up the walls. Does anyone know what to use?


R1 Indy

4,382 posts

184 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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This is my supplier of all things LED: http://www.wholesaleledlights.co.uk

will be more than £20 though.

marctwo

3,666 posts

261 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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OldJohnnyYen

1,455 posts

150 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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If you can stretch your budget, Hue is what you want, we've had it in for around 12 months and I'm always adding to it, it's brilliant.

http://meethue.com/

anonymous-user

55 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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LED ones from ebay should be fine. the SMD 5050 are brighter than the other type, but not sure if you can get the 5050 ones in colour change.

I used warm white, 400lm/m 5m for £8 for various things and well happy with the price and performance.

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

146 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Skodasupercar said:
LED ones from ebay should be fine. the SMD 5050 are brighter than the other type, but not sure if you can get the 5050 ones in colour change.

I used warm white, 400lm/m 5m for £8 for various things and well happy with the price and performance.
You can get 5050 in colour change, if fact I think they're the best type to have as the others don't do the fades quite so well.

I bought a 5m set (5050s) of eBay with a view to adding some mood lighting to a cabinet, haven't got round to fitting them yet but seemed pretty good when I tested them. Another thing to watch with the 5050s is the number of LEDs per metre. They come in either 30 or 60, you want 60 for brightness. Better to be too bright with the option to dim.

PAULJ5555

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3,554 posts

177 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Some good info here thanks, also how do you bend them at 90 degrees when there flat.

skilly1

2,702 posts

196 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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Cut them and solder wire to go around the corner part.

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

146 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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skilly1 said:
Cut them and solder wire to go around the corner part.
Or use these if you can't be doing with soldering: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5-x-Solderless-L-Shape-9...

Renovation

1,763 posts

122 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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I bought the £20ish set from Amazon - they are great and you can plug sets together (I haven't).

However I was warned that multiple sets can have different colours - ie one red may not match another red which would be annoying.

Neil - YVM

1,310 posts

200 months

Tuesday 22nd July 2014
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I have used the cheap ebay stuff several times, looked great when first installed, buy has faded badly over time. Have had to go back and replace for 2 customers. Lesson learnt, wont use the ebay stuff again. cheap but not cheerful!

C0ffin D0dger

3,440 posts

146 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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Neil - YVM said:
I have used the cheap ebay stuff several times, looked great when first installed, buy has faded badly over time. Have had to go back and replace for 2 customers. Lesson learnt, wont use the ebay stuff again. cheap but not cheerful!
I was of the impression that pretty much all the LED strips came out of the same factory in China and different retailers mark them up accordingly. It would be great to know if there are some manufacturers that are better than others and how to identify their products?

OldJohnnyYen

1,455 posts

150 months

Thursday 24th July 2014
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No not at all, you want ones manufactured with Cree LEDs, they're the rolls Royce of LEDs and glow bright for years.

http://www.cree.com/

The problem with Chinese stuff is that they all make the same claims, it's a lottery what you get sent to you. They're good if you want cheap and cheerful, but if you looking for longevity your not going to find it.

E36GUY

5,906 posts

219 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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C0ffin D0dger said:
I was of the impression that pretty much all the LED strips came out of the same factory in China and different retailers mark them up accordingly. It would be great to know if there are some manufacturers that are better than others and how to identify their products?
I can understand why people think that. There are a lot of Chinese 'agents' who claim to be manufacturers but in reality are simply a middle man. We've had experience of these but ultimately, there is no substitute to getting on a plane and visiting the factories directly.

It's very, very difficult to tell different products apart visually from pictures or even in your hand as they look so similar but I assure the differences are there and there can be many of them. For example, the 'bin' of the LED. Hi bin will ensure colour consistency and output along the whole length. Then there is source of the LED itself as has been said - CREE is a very good source but is by no means the be all and end all. Epistar, Bridgelux, Zicato are all just as good but not all of them make little chips for strip. Then there is the quality/grade of the copper used for the printed circuit board to which the LEDs are attached, the quality of the resistors and capacitors as well can vary.


Advice as always is to buy from LED specialists who actually manufacture other things rather than web sellers who are importing. The former will hopefully have their strips made to a very specific spec which they dictate (as we do). You can buy it horribly cheaply but there is a good reason for that. As I have said many times before buying cheap is to be avoided.

Russ_H

359 posts

223 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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E36GUY said:
I can understand why people think that. There are a lot of Chinese 'agents' who claim to be manufacturers but in reality are simply a middle man. We've had experience of these but ultimately, there is no substitute to getting on a plane and visiting the factories directly.

It's very, very difficult to tell different products apart visually from pictures or even in your hand as they look so similar but I assure the differences are there and there can be many of them. For example, the 'bin' of the LED. Hi bin will ensure colour consistency and output along the whole length. Then there is source of the LED itself as has been said - CREE is a very good source but is by no means the be all and end all. Epistar, Bridgelux, Zicato are all just as good but not all of them make little chips for strip. Then there is the quality/grade of the copper used for the printed circuit board to which the LEDs are attached, the quality of the resistors and capacitors as well can vary.


Advice as always is to buy from LED specialists who actually manufacture other things rather than web sellers who are importing. The former will hopefully have their strips made to a very specific spec which they dictate (as we do). You can buy it horribly cheaply but there is a good reason for that. As I have said many times before buying cheap is to be avoided.
Sorry, thread hijack........E36GUY have sent you an email


skilly1

2,702 posts

196 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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I installed some LED strip from E36GUY over 2 years ago in a commercial environment. They have been on for around 14hours a day, 7 days a week and none have failed yet (they bloody will now !)

E36GUY

5,906 posts

219 months

Monday 28th July 2014
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skilly1 said:
I installed some LED strip from E36GUY over 2 years ago in a commercial environment. They have been on for around 14hours a day, 7 days a week and none have failed yet (they bloody will now !)
rofl

Just looked it up. Amazed to see it's three years ago already!