Good US and French property listing sites?
Discussion
Croutons said:
Splashing the cash, question is close to home (likely northern France) or Orlando way?
Green acres seems to be pretty good for France, any more I need to know of?
US ones seem to be a complete lottery, is that just cos of the size of the market? Any recommends appreciated.
I guess it depends what you wish to do with the property once purchased?Green acres seems to be pretty good for France, any more I need to know of?
US ones seem to be a complete lottery, is that just cos of the size of the market? Any recommends appreciated.
No, but knowing what you wanted to do with the property can help people give their advice.
If you buy a place in Florida just for you/your family to use is fine but expect to have to pay out anywhere between £3-6k a year dependant on size of the property in fees/tax/insurance etc plus mortgage payments (unless it will be mortgage free), if you will look to rent it out for holiday lets then even without a mortgage you will need to rent it for a minimum of 30-35 weeks a year to just maybe break even!
If you buy a place in Florida just for you/your family to use is fine but expect to have to pay out anywhere between £3-6k a year dependant on size of the property in fees/tax/insurance etc plus mortgage payments (unless it will be mortgage free), if you will look to rent it out for holiday lets then even without a mortgage you will need to rent it for a minimum of 30-35 weeks a year to just maybe break even!
If you are looking at France and have some serious dosh (or just want to dream)
http://www.groupe-mercure.com/en/
http://www.sifex.co.uk/
Some really nice chateaux on there
http://www.groupe-mercure.com/en/
http://www.sifex.co.uk/
Some really nice chateaux on there
£250-350k Sterling, so a fair amount of property I would hope when converted (sadly not Chateaux land though!) other requirements, minimal tbh, I just want to see what's out there, hence the rather basic request (or so I thought!)
Fr, Upper Brittany, pays-de-Dol or dol-de-Bretagne (certainly a short hop from St.Malo), again 4-6 sleep, unless land is manageable I have limited interest in heaps of it, happy to take on someone else's near finished dream once they've dealt with enough of the shockingly tardy local trades to get main works done, but no interest in a rebuild. This can be a tidy up over the next few years before a phased retirement to potentially permanent living. Most sites catering for Brit interest have a lot of knackered houses with much acreage.
US, to sleep at least 4, pref 6 for the rental market, no great interest in land. Interest in convenience of location for the major attractions & ideally downtown Orlando, there are some inland lakes which are very nice, ideal world would be lakefrontage with boat dock somewhere powerboats/ wakeboarding is permitted, Lake Holden is a well known one. There are no specific sites I can find that drill this far down, I see individual realtor's sites and several generic "foreclosure" ones, and I'm wondering if there is anything better..
I own an apartment at Cocoa Beach so am conversant with the US buying process and running costs. That was bought "on the spot" following a foreclosure in 2008 so I did practically no research (other than a look in the few realtor's windows as to prices in the block, I got a stonking deal and it more than pays for itself) hence what I'm after is knowing more about where to look more generally, And I am struggling to find decent listing sites. It is rented through a privateer and small local rental agent who does not do sales, or of course I'd ask them, their answer was basically JFGI.
Fr, Upper Brittany, pays-de-Dol or dol-de-Bretagne (certainly a short hop from St.Malo), again 4-6 sleep, unless land is manageable I have limited interest in heaps of it, happy to take on someone else's near finished dream once they've dealt with enough of the shockingly tardy local trades to get main works done, but no interest in a rebuild. This can be a tidy up over the next few years before a phased retirement to potentially permanent living. Most sites catering for Brit interest have a lot of knackered houses with much acreage.
US, to sleep at least 4, pref 6 for the rental market, no great interest in land. Interest in convenience of location for the major attractions & ideally downtown Orlando, there are some inland lakes which are very nice, ideal world would be lakefrontage with boat dock somewhere powerboats/ wakeboarding is permitted, Lake Holden is a well known one. There are no specific sites I can find that drill this far down, I see individual realtor's sites and several generic "foreclosure" ones, and I'm wondering if there is anything better..
I own an apartment at Cocoa Beach so am conversant with the US buying process and running costs. That was bought "on the spot" following a foreclosure in 2008 so I did practically no research (other than a look in the few realtor's windows as to prices in the block, I got a stonking deal and it more than pays for itself) hence what I'm after is knowing more about where to look more generally, And I am struggling to find decent listing sites. It is rented through a privateer and small local rental agent who does not do sales, or of course I'd ask them, their answer was basically JFGI.
Croutons said:
Fr, Upper Brittany, pays-de-Dol or dol-de-Bretagne (certainly a short hop from St.Malo), again 4-6 sleep, unless land is manageable I have limited interest in heaps of it, happy to take on someone else's near finished dream once they've dealt with enough of the shockingly tardy local trades to get main works done, but no interest in a rebuild. This can be a tidy up over the next few years before a phased retirement to potentially permanent living. Most sites catering for Brit interest have a lot of knackered houses with much acreage.
If you have land, don't worry too much if it is agricultural as you can get a local farmer to work the land and will pay you.I don't know the local area round there so can't offer tips on areas. On buying though it is a buyers market. French people generally want to buy a new build, so lots of properties out there. When buying the prices are all way over, anything from 10-50% lower offers are realistic.
elster said:
French people generally want to buy a new build, so lots of properties out there. When buying the prices are all way over, anything from 10-50% lower offers are realistic.
Interesting. So when looking at a larger and older property such as a chateau, is it common for offers to be as low as 50% of asking? I appreciate that it all depends etc. but are there any conventions?AmitG said:
elster said:
French people generally want to buy a new build, so lots of properties out there. When buying the prices are all way over, anything from 10-50% lower offers are realistic.
Interesting. So when looking at a larger and older property such as a chateau, is it common for offers to be as low as 50% of asking? I appreciate that it all depends etc. but are there any conventions?Also when someone dies the children have to sort things out between themselves, this can usually mean a house sits around for years while they argue what will happen. Often over priced.
I'm currently in the process of buying a house in France and my parents have lived in France for over 10 years. Still don't understand everything though.
Thanks all,
I bought in 08 when it was $2 for £1, I don't think we'll get back there, but at $1.69 there are still attractive deals (and at least I have half an idea how it works). Interesting the Frenchies can afford to have things sitting around for so long without worrying about it!
I bought in 08 when it was $2 for £1, I don't think we'll get back there, but at $1.69 there are still attractive deals (and at least I have half an idea how it works). Interesting the Frenchies can afford to have things sitting around for so long without worrying about it!
If you do buy a country pile just do your sums,it's not uncommon for the work and materials to exceed its market value when done. If a place has been on the market for along time,find out why.Perhaps it is family squabbles after the death of parents.Go in with a silly offer as the Fisc. want their money and will force the sale after a number of years.
Daft as it sounds speak to a financial advisor and notaire as to the tax implications and also succession rights as the Laws are changing soon.As long as it's done correctly France can be very tax efficient upon death.
Seriousley,speak to someone before you do anything,it could potentially save you ££££££££££.
Daft as it sounds speak to a financial advisor and notaire as to the tax implications and also succession rights as the Laws are changing soon.As long as it's done correctly France can be very tax efficient upon death.
Seriousley,speak to someone before you do anything,it could potentially save you ££££££££££.
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