Upgrade bathroom

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gaz1234

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218 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Need to stick a shower in here. I'm thinking either

Replace the lot and do a top job.
Or
Install proper shower, new screen, replace and move bath, new flooring and tiling
Or
Install shower head running off the bath, install shower screen, new tiles and floor.

Using tradesmen. No DIY.
But may sell up in year or 2...

What do you think? Rough prices?

Edited by gaz1234 on Monday 11th August 18:34

Countdown

39,691 posts

195 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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I'd go for option 2. If you instal electric you won't freeze when somebody turns on a tap, you'll have a backup if your combi breaks down and it's cheaper than a full install.

gaz1234

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218 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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How much roughly to fit and supply? Ish

Neil - YVM

1,310 posts

198 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Do you want to retain the bath or just have a shower cubicle.

You will have some issues fitting a bath shower screen to your existing bath, as the tap end of the bath is not against the wall and there is a tiled box behind it at a different height to the bath.

OldBuoy

26,959 posts

182 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Depends on so many variables but I would suggest 5-10k (for someting really pukka)

Podie

46,630 posts

274 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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£5-10k feels about right for that room. Just finishing off a slightly larger sized room.

Supplying your own bits can save a lot - we bought the shower, bath and basin taps and radiator for much less than the plumber could find (Internet offers).

Tiles really do impact the bottom line, not just the cost of the actual tiles, but the times to lay and grout. In that room I'd want to tile most of it - and that'll add to the cost.

A fancy bathroom can add value / desirability, but if you're staying only a few years I'd tart it up.

gaz1234

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Monday 11th August 2014
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5k is too much.
Think I'll go the route of tarting then. Move bath, re tile, re floor, install screen and shower then. 1k?

Podie

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274 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Why move the bath?

You could end up having to move the waste... so worth asking a plumber before starting.

Gingerbread Man

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212 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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As Neil states, the shower screen, if glass, would have to (if able) be mounted for the other end of the bath, as the boxing behind the bath would cause an issue.

That boxing will cause issues all round actually.

You could install an Aqualisa digital shower springing out of the ceiling. Mira do a version too. This would avoid fidderling with tiles.


OldBuoy

26,959 posts

182 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Where are you moving the bath to?

Du1point8

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191 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Gingerbread Man said:
As Neil states, the shower screen, if glass, would have to (if able) be mounted for the other end of the bath, as the boxing behind the bath would cause an issue.

That boxing will cause issues all round actually.

You could install an Aqualisa digital shower springing out of the ceiling. Mira do a version too. This would avoid fidderling with tiles.
Why would the boxing cause an issue?

Im a bit confused at that, is is due to getting wet (then tile it) or the shower screen not being big enough?

bigger shower screens here:

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/shower-screens-317-000...

mixer like this:

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/architeckt-indus-manua...

would tart it up fine.

Neil - YVM

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198 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Du1point8 said:
Why would the boxing cause an issue?

Im a bit confused at that, is is due to getting wet (then tile it) or the shower screen not being big enough?

bigger shower screens here:

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/shower-screens-317-000...

mixer like this:

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/architeckt-indus-manua...

would tart it up fine.
The tiled section would raise the bath shower screen, so then the wiper / seal on the bottom of the glass will not seal to the bath..

Nothing to do with width of the screen.

Du1point8

21,604 posts

191 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Neil - YVM said:
Du1point8 said:
Why would the boxing cause an issue?

Im a bit confused at that, is is due to getting wet (then tile it) or the shower screen not being big enough?

bigger shower screens here:

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/shower-screens-317-000...

mixer like this:

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/architeckt-indus-manua...

would tart it up fine.
The tiled section would raise the bath shower screen, so then the wiper / seal on the bottom of the glass will not seal to the bath..

Nothing to do with width of the screen.
true but you can buy ones that pivot at the wall and have a rubber strip that would reach the bath so that wouldn't matter, just a larger strip would be needed.

Had one in a flat I used to rent, so you would kind of open it as if it were a door.

gaz1234

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Monday 11th August 2014
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Collecting water on the tiles isn't great Either.
If I go other end the slope will mean less space or more water spray out of the bath, no?
What's the ceiling shower look like?

Gingerbread Man

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212 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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gaz1234 said:
Collecting water on the tiles isn't great Either.
If I go other end the slope will mean less space or more water spray out of the bath, no?
What's the ceiling shower look like?
You say the slope would mean less space, further from the shower head, but if the shower heads mounted on the tap end, it's also far away due to the boxed section.

gaz1234

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Monday 11th August 2014
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Gingerbread Man said:
You say the slope would mean less space, further from the shower head, but if the shower heads mounted on the tap end, it's also far away due to the boxed section.
True, but I would think moving the bath makes sense?

B17NNS

18,506 posts

246 months

Monday 11th August 2014
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Countdown said:
If you instal electric you won't freeze when somebody turns on a tap, you'll have a backup if your combi breaks down and it's cheaper than a full install.
You'll also have a crap shower though. Hateful things. If you go with a thermostatic valve you won't freeze. And seriously, how often does your boiler break down? A thermostatic valve can be teed into the hot and cold feed under the bath. An electric shower requires a dedicated feed direct from the board as well as a cold feed.

If it were me and you were generally happy with the current install (and thinking of moving), I'd fit a glass shower screen and (assuming you have a combo?) pinch a hot and cold from below the bath and fit a thermostatic shower above. It'll require a couple of short chases. Chances are you won't be able to match the tiles so add a feature vertical stripe in a contrasting tile in that area.

gaz1234

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Monday 11th August 2014
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Can you get extra long screens with a static glass panel which then goes into the main screen?

gaz1234

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Du1point8 said:
Why would the boxing cause an issue?

Im a bit confused at that, is is due to getting wet (then tile it) or the shower screen not being big enough?

bigger shower screens here:

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/shower-screens-317-000...

mixer like this:

http://www.plumbworld.co.uk/architeckt-indus-manua...

would tart it up fine.
I know nothing about these. How does this mixer work?

gaz1234

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Monday 11th August 2014
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I guess this would work well with bath as it is? Just needs tile cutting and refitting to accommodate screen?