What Wood burning/multi fuel stove?

What Wood burning/multi fuel stove?

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danhep123

4 posts

116 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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I would go for 5kw, if you go over then you need to fit an air vent. I like the dovre 250 or Stockton 5 but its all personal preference, 5kw should give lots of heat, what size is the room?

Ilikebeaver

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2,969 posts

181 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Room is 4.9m x 4.3m

Here is pic of the current fireplace: :

The opening is only 57cm wide so big log burners will not fit

BFG TERRANO

2,172 posts

148 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Charnwood Country 4 would sit there nice, this is my diy fit.

MonkeyBusiness

3,935 posts

187 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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I have a Firefox 5 (which funnily enough I put on an hour ago for the first time in ages).

One of the more cheaper multifuel stoves but I think it's great!

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Simpo Two said:
crankedup said:
They generate next to no ash and you can, if you wish, throw away those disgustingly ugly hot water radiators that hang on the wall!
A stove is no substitute for central heating, it's (now) a trendy middle-class fashion accessory so that Tabitha can witter on about recycling while she burns down half a forest!
It is in this house. Last winter we didn't have the central heating on once.

We also had to open the patio doors to cool down a bit.

Our is 8kw though and room sealed so rather than drawing in warm air from the room it gets air from outside.

Simpo Two

85,422 posts

265 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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C Lee Farquar said:
We're building a new house now that has two woodburners and no central heating, so I hope you're wrong smile
I think the problem is one of heat distribution. If you connected up tubes with fans in them...

In my 3-bed detached, the stove gets the lounge up to 75+F quite happily - but has no discernible effect on the other rooms at all. I know this because until I got a thermostat fitted upstairs the heat turned off the CH...

The OP also has a very narrow aperture, which is going to hinder heat getting out IMHO.

danhep123

4 posts

116 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Ilikebeaver said:
Room is 4.9m x 4.3m

Here is pic of the current fireplace: :

The opening is only 57cm wide so big log burners will not fit
3.6kw is all that's required for this size of room. so 5kw will be fine, no point going any bigger

scdan4

1,299 posts

160 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Similar sized opening and room to ours. We struggled to find something affordable to fit reasonably in the gap. As said above, you need space around them for airflow to get the heat out, most stoves were (at least) 2ft wide - the size of opening. Some you could squeeze in, but would have been way too close to the render. We were also restricted with the flue/chimney position. Opening is shallow as well as narrow, with the chimney right to the back. Most stoves looked at had the flue running from the top plate somewhere - too far towards the centre and the stove couldn't push back far enough to get the flue up the chimney. It's worth checking your set up before deciding on anything.


http://www.naturalheating.co.uk/PBSCProduct.asp?It...

was the best one we found for dimensions, offset flue and price. We're very happy with it. More than adequate to heat a similar sized room and significantly take the chill off in the rest of the house. Nice to use, sturdy, and the glass stays clean.

(Decorating has been tidied up since this photo was taken!)

eta. that's only a firelighter in there looking pathetic!

dickymint

24,334 posts

258 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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jshell said:
dickymint said:
Newton 5 True British by Trianco - Supplied by Julian at Stovefitters - Fantastic bit of kit ...................

http://www.stovefitterswarehouse.co.uk/collections...
They are a thousand pounds in price! Please explain to me what you get that's worth a grand? Or does Julian sport a Rolex and drive a 911, perhance?

I'm not trying to be a tt, I'm just trying to understand the cost - as someone who's just now building a large extension. We thought about a WB, but purchase price, fitting etc put us off.
I can assure you I paid substantially less than a grand for mine - might have had something to do with he was up a ladder fitting a liner when i rang him for a price wink


WelshChris

1,177 posts

254 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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We've got a Morso Squirrel - small but incredibly efficient. When we were shopping around our local stove man said "it may look small but boy is it efficient" - and he was right!

http://morso.co.uk/product/morso-1430/

Also the Chilli Penguin stoves are getting a good name round these parts, where log burners are common and the customers are discerning - made just down the road in Pwllheli too.

http://www.chillipenguin.co.uk

You won't go far wrong with any of these stoves.

dickymint

24,334 posts

258 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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Ilikebeaver said:
Room is 4.9m x 4.3m

Here is pic of the current fireplace: :

The opening is only 57cm wide so big log burners will not fit
That cat needs at least another years seasoning before it's ready to burn?

Ilikebeaver

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2,969 posts

181 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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WelshChris said:
We've got a Morso Squirrel - small but incredibly efficient. When we were shopping around our local stove man said "it may look small but boy is it efficient" - and he was right!

http://morso.co.uk/product/morso-1430/

Also the Chilli Penguin stoves are getting a good name round these parts, where log burners are common and the customers are discerning - made just down the road in Pwllheli too.

http://www.chillipenguin.co.uk

You won't go far wrong with any of these stoves.
We used a morso squirrel in a holiday cottage earlier this year. Was very impressed by its controllability.

It's small but so usable.

However, I called a dealer today and they were quoting £1000+ for them, so too much for me

Ilikebeaver

Original Poster:

2,969 posts

181 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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dickymint said:
Ilikebeaver said:
Room is 4.9m x 4.3m

Here is pic of the current fireplace: :

The opening is only 57cm wide so big log burners will not fit
That cat needs at least another years seasoning before it's ready to burn?
He blends in quite well.
He goes in there when he doesn't want to be bothered by the dog who won't notice him at all when he's there

Pesty

42,655 posts

256 months

Friday 22nd August 2014
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WelshChris said:
We've got a Morso Squirrel - small but incredibly efficient. When we were shopping around our local stove man said "it may look small but boy is it efficient" - and he was right!

http://morso.co.uk/product/morso-1430/

Also the Chilli Penguin stoves are getting a good name round these parts, where log burners are common and the customers are discerning - made just down the road in Pwllheli too.

http://www.chillipenguin.co.uk

You won't go far wrong with any of these stoves.
Specs on that say efficiency Efficiency Net / Gross (%) 71 / 64,6

89.1% for the burley.

Yes yes I used to play top trumps as a kid smile

dino ferrana

791 posts

252 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Strongly recommend an Ecofan for the top of the stove (real one, not the knock offs). We got one this winter and the difference in warmth in the room is very noticeable. My wife was very sceptical when I bought it (to put it mildly), but conceded it is very effective. Our stove is back in a large opening and previously the heat stayed in the recess and the original beam above got very hot.

They work off a thermocouple so no batteries or power supply and are totally silent.

crankedup

25,764 posts

243 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Simpo Two said:
crankedup said:
I have to disagree, I have been using wood and multifuel stoves for 30/40 years, in my experience the need for central heating is debatable.
You're saying that you can cope in a house without c/h; but I said 'a stove is no substitute for c/h'. Which it patently isn't (unless it powers a hot water heating system). The heat doesn't diffuse from room to room, and even if it did, to get the a bedroom to 60 the living room would have to be 90...
Plenty of stoves power up for hot water, we used one thirty years back and done the cooking on it, I speak from experience of use. Like I said 'the need for central heating is debatable'. We have a debate.

stevesingo

4,855 posts

222 months

Tuesday 9th September 2014
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I had a Morso Squirrel in my last house and it was a great quality stove.

We have a Woodwarm Fireview 16kW with boiler, and that too is of good quality.

Don't buy a cheap stove if you intend on using it. They distort and warp so easily.


hidetheelephants

24,338 posts

193 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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The olds are intent on replacing an open fire with one of these; the open fire is a baxi with a outside ashpan(ash falls through and saves you traipsing through the house with an ash bucket), which is a real boon and reduces the amount of muck in the room. How often do you need to empty the ashpans on these things? I did have a shufti but couldn't see any that offered a similar facility, so either they are a retrograde pain or the amount of ash is miraculously reduced.

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,119 posts

165 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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Depends what you're burning. Coal or smokeless fuel produces quite a lot of ash, and would need cleaning out every time you use it. That's a big reason why I don't burn it.

Wood burns down to an incredibly small amount of ash. You also want to keep a bed of ash on top of the grate for most efficient burning of wood, so you don't clean it out too often. If using it every day during winter, I generally scoop some of the ash out once a week - it really isn't a chore.

bigdom

2,084 posts

145 months

Wednesday 10th September 2014
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As above, if I use smokeless fuel, once a week - and has to go in the rubbish bin.

If burning wood (depending on whether hard or soft wood), we can get up to 3 weeks before emptying the ash pan. Our's has a stainless steel ash pan, just pull it out and walk it outside and chuck the ash on the flower beds (it's now a fertiliser), very little mess.