Funicular goods railway - help!!

Funicular goods railway - help!!

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eliot

11,427 posts

254 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Get the chain off now and get it soaking in oil or diesel - got nothing to loose.

TVR Sagaris

835 posts

232 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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I have nothing useful to offer. But this is cool and I would like one for my house.

oliverhanmer

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42 posts

116 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Do I just use engine oil or something more specialist?

rolando

2,148 posts

155 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Pheo said:
Could you make it water powered like the one at Lynton & lynmouth?
I agree with this proposal. Low tech. and no problems when there's a grid failure.

Just a question of balance.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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oliverhanmer said:
Do I just use engine oil or something more specialist?
I'd soak it in diesel first to clean it. I'd be inclined to lube it with proper chain lube when the time comes as it's cheap and has good cling.

Your first man task is to check all the rotating parts to see what/if anything has seized. I wouldn't worry about the gearbox/motor yet.

If the bearings have grease nipples I'd invest in a grease gun and pump through till clean grease comes out.


wolfracesonic

6,992 posts

127 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Daft question: The chain basically looks like an oversized bike chain. What happens if one of the links lets go? Is there any sort of fail safe mechanism to stop the carriage careening down the tracks?

littlebasher

3,779 posts

171 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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I want one now, and my land is flat!

RichB

51,567 posts

284 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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I'm trying to figure out what the carriage attaches to because there doesn't seem to be any rack, cogs or other device between the tracks.

Harrytsg

1,264 posts

162 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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WinstonWolf said:
oliverhanmer said:
Do I just use engine oil or something more specialist?
I'd soak it in diesel first to clean it. I'd be inclined to lube it with proper chain lube when the time comes as it's cheap and has good cling.

Your first man task is to check all the rotating parts to see what/if anything has seized. I wouldn't worry about the gearbox/motor yet.

If the bearings have grease nipples I'd invest in a grease gun and pump through till clean grease comes out.
+1.

After soaking in diesel to clean it, and provided its all moving freely without excessive play in the links, I would store it in engine oil until you need it., then drip 'dry' and lubricate.
(Far too many) Years ago when I was on the tools, we used Rocol Chain and Drive spray to lubricate the external chains on the cranes we maintained.
I would also be inclined to check all moving parts, to see if anything has seized, or is grinding, and take it from there depending on what you find.
Get water out of everywhere it shouldn't be.

And is that twin/earth cable used in an external environment?


This is such a great feature to have, they should be compulsory.

Edited by Harrytsg on Tuesday 26th August 20:45

oliverhanmer

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42 posts

116 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Thanks for the advice. I think I am going to take this slowly as it's all new to me. I work in the law and have never had cause to do anything technical like this before! But it's an interesting challenge!

The wiring in the house is all a bit weird so I wouldn't be surprised if there is something awry with the electrics to the motor etc. There is no power to it now so it's safe (I've had that checked) but it obviously needs to be looked at by an electrician when it comes to wiring in new components to make sure it's all as it should be.

If I get it completely dry and check the various bits over and clean/oil as necessary that should be a decent start.

It is an amazing feature and we are really keen to get it working again. We can then move on to the next project of which there are many!!

Simpo Two

85,417 posts

265 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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Pheo said:
Thats awesome - can we see more pictures of the house! I have some kinda idea that it'll be a victorian inventors house or something.
Cragside!


JuniorD

8,624 posts

223 months

Tuesday 26th August 2014
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What a cool thing to own! Though is actually a funicular? I always thought a funicular required a counterweight and can't tell if there is one in the pictures.

oliverhanmer

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42 posts

116 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Apparently it's an inclined lift funicular according to the previous owners. So not a funicular in the traditional two carriages acting as a counterbalance to each other.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Oh please call it a funicular and to hell with the absolute literal definition. It's a brilliant word and thing to have bounce

triple5

751 posts

145 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Watching with interest, great project OP.

oliverhanmer

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42 posts

116 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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Agree about calling it a funicular - sounds much cooler than an inclined lift! I will start removing the chain etc on sunday and will keep everyone posted.

Chrisgr31

13,474 posts

255 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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oliverhanmer said:
Hi. This is my first post so please bear with me. We have moved into a house on the side of a hill. It has 90 steps from the street level to the house.
90 steps from the road to the house? How did the removal company manage? Must of cost a fortune for them! Not surprised you want the railway working. I wonder if a lift might actually add more value to the property than its cost, as I imagine the steps put a lot of people off.

mattdaniels

7,353 posts

282 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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TVR Sagaris said:
I have nothing useful to offer. But this is cool and I would like one for my house.
This.

+100 PH points to the OP, and a bookmarked thread because this is fascinating and I can't wait to see the restoration.

dickymint

24,331 posts

258 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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This is PistonHeads you need to drop the electric motor!! Get yourself a scrapped moped/scooter, anchor it down and connect your chain to the drive sprocket - easy peasy now get on with the job wink

williredale

2,866 posts

152 months

Wednesday 27th August 2014
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mattdaniels said:
TVR Sagaris said:
I have nothing useful to offer. But this is cool and I would like one for my house.
This.

+100 PH points to the OP, and a bookmarked thread because this is fascinating and I can't wait to see the restoration.
What a fantastic thing to have in your garden!