Low profile LED Downlighters

[Russ_H]

I'm after a few low profile LED downlighters for my posh shed build. In total they need to be a maximum of 31mm thick - to fit under 12.5mm plasterboard & 19mm battens and to minimise any headroom reduction. I've seen some on ebay whick look exactly what I'm after apart from the LED driver is thicker than 19mm so won't fit behind the plasterboard. I assume I could remove the supplied LED driver and use one larger driver for all lights??

Low profile LED 1

Low profile LED 2

I realise they might not be the best quality but I'm struggling to find any alternatives.

Any ideas??


Cheers

[Spare tyre]

I have no idea but do you need to consider cooling

[E36GUY]

Howabout doing some linear strips instead of those horrible things? You could surface mount or route and recess some aluminium profiles which house LED tape. For an interesting feature you could mount them all at different angles offset from each other rather than in rows?

[monthefish]

I was struggling to find something at <100mm depth, so 30mm is a big ask.

I eventually found these products which did the job.

http://www.snaplite.co.uk/

[Woody3]

monthefish said:

I was struggling to find something at <100mm depth, so 30mm is a big ask.

I eventually found these products which did the job.

http://www.snaplite.co.uk/

We've also got these too. Not very "green" though. I think I have 6 left over actually...

[amoeba]

I have 3 of these above the sink;

http://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B00KGTQFU4/ref=...

, and so far they seem great. However I have only had them 3 weeks.

[Russ_H]

E36GUY said:

Howabout doing some linear strips instead of those horrible things? You could surface mount or route and recess some aluminium profiles which house LED tape. For an interesting feature you could mount them all at different angles offset from each other rather than in rows?

Hi Guy,

I'm open to suggestions.
The living room part of the shed is 2.7m x 3.7m with French doors at one end. Surface mounted in a rectangle shape say 3.0x2.0m would look good or as you say set at different angles. Have also seen on your site the aluminium corner sections - these would look good along the two 3.7m length walls. White diming LEDS.

Workshop part is 3.4m x 3.7m with two 600x1200mm windows at one end. The room needs to be well illuminated. How many LEDs and where would you recommend.



If you can reply here or via email it would be appreciated.

Thanks

[E36GUY]

Russ_H said:

Hi Guy,

I'm open to suggestions.

Thanks

Cool. I have used the corner type before on a ceiling. We surface mounted it like a bead around the room about a foot and a half off the wall pointing back at the wall. The resultant output lights a halo across that part of the ceiling and also most of the way down the walls. Done in warm white or white, in your gaff this would actually be a very usable general light that you could complement with a couple of nice free standing or table lamps for a more targeted light for reading.

For the workshop part, you want a more overall coverage from ceiling down so we could recess the power line version of the profile which is 35mm square in section and carrie 2 strips of LED side by side. You could mount these in the ceiling either in parallel straight lines at 90 degrees to the walls or maybe for a bit of fun, in diagonal just because you can. These profiles come in 2M lengths off the shelf so you can do that or shorter as a single piece otherwise you have to add on. They butt up to each other well enough for longer lengths however.

Below is a picture of Powerline mounted in a bathroom in a ski chalet that I did. Bare in mind that this is a dark room and the light level would be greatly increased if using bright paintwork rather than dark tile. This particular installation was designed to light the users face when they approach the mirror and is very effective.



Muncher also has put this across the ceiling in one of his bathrooms:

Before:




After:




You will obviously need more than one strip and you don't have to go wall to wall but you get the idea.

Edited by E36GUY on Tuesday 2nd September 12:47

[Russ_H]

Hi Guy,

I've had a look at your site.
For the workshop side, I'm thinking a couple of 600x600 LED panels flush mounted into the plasterboard. Including the plasterboard there is 31mm depth to play with. Was planning to mount the LED driver near the fusebox tucked away in a cupboard.

The living area side, I'll probably keep in simple with a 3000mm x 2000mm rectangular strip LEDs either surface mounted in the 7mm deep profile of the corner type as you suggested. White light dimmable.

Can you give me an idea of costs.
Thanks

Russ

[dirty_dog]

E36GUY said:

Below is a picture of Powerline mounted in a bathroom in a ski chalet that I did. Bare in mind that this is a dark room and the light level would be greatly increased if using bright paintwork rather than dark tile. This particular installation was designed to light the users face when they approach the mirror and is very effective.

Just got mine in yesterday as it goes Guy. Will sort some proper photos for you when its finished, very happy with the look so far and I'm yet to tile and fit the mirror below.

[henrycrun]

Back to sheds. Has anyone used inexpensive led ribbon ?

If so, what Watts/metre ?

[E36GUY]

henrycrun said:

Back to sheds. Has anyone used inexpensive led ribbon ?

If so, what Watts/metre ?

Those pictures above Henry are actually special profiles designed to give the LED tape a nice finish. In the wide profile shown there are two rows of strip side by side.

For a guide -
60 LEDS per metre (3.5mm x 2.8mm LED Size) around 400/metre
120 LEDS per metre - around 750 lumens/metre
60 LEDS (5mm x 5mm LED size) around 1000 lumens a metre.

But as I always say, you pays for what you gets. There are many different grades of LED strip available but to the naked eye they look no different. If it's very cheap there will be a reason.

[chockymonster]

E36GUY said:

But as I always say, you pays for what you gets. There are many different grades of LED strip available but to the naked eye they look no different. If it's very cheap there will be a reason.

Very true, the stuff I bought has lasted 18 months of light use before becoming patchy and dim.

[dirty_dog]

E36GUY said:

Those pictures above Henry are actually special profiles designed to give the LED tape a nice finish. In the wide profile shown there are two rows of strip side by side.

For a guide -
60 LEDS per metre (3.5mm x 2.8mm LED Size) around 400/metre
120 LEDS per metre - around 750 lumens/metre
60 LEDS (5mm x 5mm LED size) around 1000 lumens a metre.

But as I always say, you pays for what you gets. There are many different grades of LED strip available but to the naked eye they look no different. If it's very cheap there will be a reason.

Like this

[Russ_H]

Russ_H said:

Hi Guy,

I've had a look at your site.
For the workshop side, I'm thinking a couple of 600x600 LED panels flush mounted into the plasterboard. Including the plasterboard there is 31mm depth to play with. Was planning to mount the LED driver near the fusebox tucked away in a cupboard.

The living area side, I'll probably keep in simple with a 3000mm x 2000mm rectangular strip LEDs either surface mounted in the 7mm deep profile of the corner type as you suggested. White light dimmable.

Can you give me an idea of costs.
Thanks

Russ

Hi Guy,

Can you give me an idea of the costs and leadtime for the bits - I need to the electrician started.
Cheers

Russ