Commercial below flat decreases value by how much?

Commercial below flat decreases value by how much?

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philv

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3,948 posts

215 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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If a flat has a commercial premises below it, how much as a percentage is it worth less than a comparable flat without a commercial below?

In this case the comercial is a hairdressers.

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Vaud

50,648 posts

156 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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How long is a piece of string?

Sorry for the flippant answer but it really depends.

Some people might like a Mon-Sat daytime business under their flat instead of neighbours below. Some might hate it. No fixed % guide in my view.

Food premises would drop the value... so always a risk that a future buyer things that there is a risk in change of use?

philv

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Sunday 31st August 2014
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I though the mere fact that many mortgage providers wont touch it would definately mean a decreased value.

Vaud

50,648 posts

156 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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philv said:
I though the mere fact that many mortgage providers wont touch it would definately mean a decreased value.
Do you want to give us the full picture of what the scenario is and your questions - or shall we just guess randomly for the evening?

Centurion07

10,381 posts

248 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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Vaud said:
philv said:
I though the mere fact that many mortgage providers wont touch it would definately mean a decreased value.
Do you want to give us the full picture of what the scenario is and your questions - or shall we just guess randomly for the evening?
Don't spoil it! Is it a sex shop with a live peepshow out the back? Surely your flat should be worth more than normal then with the drilling of a carefully located hole?

24hr massage parlour?

philv

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3,948 posts

215 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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As were talking percentages and ive already said it is a hairdressers, where is the guessing?

DanL

6,226 posts

266 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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philv said:
As were talking percentages and ive already said it is a hairdressers, where is the guessing?
Where is it? Central London, Northern England, small village somewhere?

philv

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Sunday 31st August 2014
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DanL said:
Where is it? Central London, Northern England, small village somewhere?
Historic town centre in east midlands

Willy Nilly

12,511 posts

168 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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philv said:
Historic town centre in east midlands
Does such a town exist?

Vaud

50,648 posts

156 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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Newark is OK if that classes as East Midlands.

Fotic

719 posts

130 months

Sunday 31st August 2014
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philv said:
I though the mere fact that many mortgage providers wont touch it would definately mean a decreased value.
It's not that's it's worth less - that is irrelevant to the mortgage company. It's that it'll drop a lot more if the market tanks, so they don't like them.

philv

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Monday 1st September 2014
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In which case, if it is likely to fall quicker, and half of mortgage companies wont touch it, and ithe shop could possibly be converted to an all night kebab and adult sex shop all in one.

Wouldnt that imply the flat must be worth less than a similar fkat without thise risks/problems?
Wont a valuer see it this way?

OldJohnnyYen

1,455 posts

150 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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You're looking for a very specific answer to a very vague question.

16.2%

Fotic

719 posts

130 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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philv said:
In which case, if it is likely to fall quicker, and half of mortgage companies wont touch it, and ithe shop could possibly be converted to an all night kebab and adult sex shop all in one.

Wouldnt that imply the flat must be worth less than a similar fkat without thise risks/problems?
Wont a valuer see it this way?
Probably yes although there's no such thing as a comparable flat to compare it to really.

GreenDog

2,261 posts

193 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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Vaud said:
Newark is OK if that classes as East Midlands.
It's also an mildly amusing anagram.

Oi_Oi_Savaloy

2,313 posts

261 months

Monday 1st September 2014
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have you approached any lenders to find out what level of deposit they require to satisfy their mortgage parameters?

I think they'll be looking for a far higher percentage (and the terms of the mortgage will be higher than a prevailing regular resi mortgage too) as an LTV.

We priced some units up in Twickenham, which were above a takeaway and a separate sit-down restaurant, recently and we heavily discounted them to the open market (because of the smell and the issues with mortgages). People buying them would have to be 'all cash' as it were and that limits your purchasers too of course.