Likelihood Of Enforcement Action ?
Discussion
V8RX7 said:
I know it's a risk but having seen locally a case where a bungalow was built, an Enforcement notice was sent, which was ignored, then no further action was taken, followed by the one on here with the house built under next door's soffit I have to question why should I play by the (stupid) rules.
In that particualr case, it is most likely that that the eaves of the original house were build over the boundary line and are tresspassing over the land where the new extension has been built, which would explain why the extension has been built like it has. 
Mandat said:
V8RX7 said:
I know it's a risk but having seen locally a case where a bungalow was built, an Enforcement notice was sent, which was ignored, then no further action was taken, followed by the one on here with the house built under next door's soffit I have to question why should I play by the (stupid) rules.
In that particualr case, it is most likely that that the eaves of the original house were build over the boundary line and are tresspassing over the land where the new extension has been built, which would explain why the extension has been built like it has. Simple rule that works and keeps detached homes, separated.
ked then... This is clearly not the country for you. 
Update - Planning Officer said I hadn't offered to knock enough down - I remeasured and gave him the measurements.
He then asked what size the plan should have been printed at
- FFS see the bloody scale !!!
Once printed at A3 (instead of A4) and seeing I had agreed to give 50% more floor area away, combined with me pointing out other non subservient extensions, he's now agreed to support the original design.
However he's had the drawings for 6 weeks and hadn't noticed that the floorplan was less than half the size off the elevations - I wouldn't trust him to stack shelves.
He then asked what size the plan should have been printed at
- FFS see the bloody scale !!! Once printed at A3 (instead of A4) and seeing I had agreed to give 50% more floor area away, combined with me pointing out other non subservient extensions, he's now agreed to support the original design.
However he's had the drawings for 6 weeks and hadn't noticed that the floorplan was less than half the size off the elevations - I wouldn't trust him to stack shelves.
Mandat said:
In that particualr case, it is most likely that that the eaves of the original house were build over the boundary line and are tresspassing over the land where the new extension has been built, which would explain why the extension has been built like it has.
The house was built in the 1930's and the reason the extn has been built the way it has is because the owner is an arse .The thing that's not come up is that the planning process with your local council is not the end of the road.
You can appeal.
I did this with the garage that I built at our current place. It was a case of a complete lack of imagination by the planning man & therefore the dept, so I appealed and won.
You can appeal.
I did this with the garage that I built at our current place. It was a case of a complete lack of imagination by the planning man & therefore the dept, so I appealed and won.
V8RX7 said:
Update - Planning Officer said I hadn't offered to knock enough down - I remeasured and gave him the measurements.
He then asked what size the plan should have been printed at - FFS see the bloody scale !!!
Once printed at A3 (instead of A4) and seeing I had agreed to give 50% more floor area away, combined with me pointing out other non subservient extensions, he's now agreed to support the original design.
However he's had the drawings for 6 weeks and hadn't noticed that the floorplan was less than half the size off the elevations - I wouldn't trust him to stack shelves.
Annoying, but not entirely surprising at all - as I would imagine you also recognised! A real 'roll-eyes' moment there...He then asked what size the plan should have been printed at
- FFS see the bloody scale !!! Once printed at A3 (instead of A4) and seeing I had agreed to give 50% more floor area away, combined with me pointing out other non subservient extensions, he's now agreed to support the original design.
However he's had the drawings for 6 weeks and hadn't noticed that the floorplan was less than half the size off the elevations - I wouldn't trust him to stack shelves.
Anyway, whatever - you're sorted now, so happy days!
Put a photo up on here once it's done, be interested to see it.
I live in a fairly isolated area (60 houses on 600 acres) and have had this experience of the planning system:
1. Every planner is different, the all have their own opinions and you can be lucky/unlucky.
2. Most neighbours build without permission. Those that do go for planning build larger than the approved plans.
3. Enforcement action is rare. I know of two cases out of dozens of unapproved builds.
4. Even when enforcement action is started, nothing actually happens. The council don't like spending money on lawyers when the neighbours couldn't care less.
5. Planning appeals have a fast track process that takes are few weeks rather than months. You are limited to the types of submissions that can be used with this approach.
6. Permitted development is full of loopholes. Google for them and see if you can make use of them (I have used a couple). You don't need permission for this, just a lawful development certificate which is half the cost/time of planning permission. It bypassing all council planning policies.
1. Every planner is different, the all have their own opinions and you can be lucky/unlucky.
2. Most neighbours build without permission. Those that do go for planning build larger than the approved plans.
3. Enforcement action is rare. I know of two cases out of dozens of unapproved builds.
4. Even when enforcement action is started, nothing actually happens. The council don't like spending money on lawyers when the neighbours couldn't care less.
5. Planning appeals have a fast track process that takes are few weeks rather than months. You are limited to the types of submissions that can be used with this approach.
6. Permitted development is full of loopholes. Google for them and see if you can make use of them (I have used a couple). You don't need permission for this, just a lawful development certificate which is half the cost/time of planning permission. It bypassing all council planning policies.
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