External render question

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Hoofy

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Sunday 14th September 2014
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Would having a plain render on the front of a house and pebbledash on the sides/back look... st?

x 7usc

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Sunday 14th September 2014
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In a word, yes! it would look much better all rendered, but then I'm really not a fan of dash. if it was all painted the same colour it would be a help a bit mind.

Hoofy

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Sunday 14th September 2014
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Just one side needs doing. Would probably make the cost difference neither here nor there if I got the entire house painted I guess?

Hoofy

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Sunday 14th September 2014
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Oh, how much would it cost to pebbledash one external wall including materials, scaffolding and labour?

alanyork

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Sunday 14th September 2014
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to peppledash is faster and easyer than 2 coat render, so should be cheaper

dickymint

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Sunday 14th September 2014
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alanyork said:
to peppledash is faster and easyer than 2 coat render, so should be cheaper
How do you work that out?

Edit: checked your profile and you're a pro builder! You telling me that you use one coat of render and dash into that?


Edited by dickymint on Sunday 14th September 20:14

Hoofy

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Sunday 14th September 2014
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Don't you have to put a base down before the render for the pebbledash?

B17NNS

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Monday 15th September 2014
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Dash is still scratch and float. Not sure how it's quicker other than time saved rubbing up?

And any time saved there is spent sweeping up fking stones hehe

Hoofy

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Monday 15th September 2014
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Hrm. Maybe I'll pretend I'm going for a gravel drive. redface

EggsBenedict

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Monday 15th September 2014
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I had a pebbledash house once. It had turned kind of grey with age. Looked horrid. Painted the whole thing (which was massively painful - really hard to get good coverage), it looked like stucco afterwards. If I'd had the money, I'd have flat rendered the lot and painted that.

Are you going for some sort of retro look?

Hoofy

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Monday 15th September 2014
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EggsBenedict said:
I had a pebbledash house once. It had turned kind of grey with age. Looked horrid. Painted the whole thing (which was massively painful - really hard to get good coverage), it looked like stucco afterwards. If I'd had the money, I'd have flat rendered the lot and painted that.

Are you going for some sort of retro look?
Ha. No, the house was bought pebbledashed. One wall has bits of render/dash coming off so needs redoing. I don't really want to spend thousands just to make the other 3 walls look nice/match.

Hoofy

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Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Oh, the render upon which the pebbledash sits is coming away from the wall. Mostly, it's just cracks and when you tap the render it sounds hollow? A little bit has come off to reveal beige stuff. This is just below the eaves. There's signs of dampness (furry mould) on the inside of the wall near the ceiling. Presumable this is because water's getting through the cracks and bit that's come off? A lot of the front of the house sounds hollow but there are no other signs of damp.

Any thoughts?

B17NNS

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Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Sounds like it has blown (lost it's mechanical key/adhesion to the wall). As you say, water will get behind and cause a potential damp problem. Also once the water is behind it and it freezes, the water expands, render fails/cracks/falls off.

Anything blown wants hacking off and renewing.

Your choices then are sand and cement render, sand and cement render dashed, monocouche (through coloured).

Hoofy

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Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Ah crap. So one side - over £2k all in?

B17NNS

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Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Have you got a picture of the elevation, approximate size?

Hoofy

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Tuesday 16th September 2014
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B17NNS said:
Have you got a picture of the elevation, approximate size?
It's mainly dash but some brick. Guestimate 30m square excluding windows (obviously) mainly upstairs so needs scaffolding.

B17NNS

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Tuesday 16th September 2014
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It's 3 days work for a spread and his mate. 1 day to hack off, 1 day to scratch, 1 day to float. (£250 per day?)

Assuming sand and cement, rubbed finish.

Labour £750
Skip £150
Plastering sand £50
Cement £60
Sika 1 (waterproofer) £45
Beads (go for stainless over galvanised) £30
Scaffolding £350? (£20 per linear m per lift)
Sundries £65

Circa £1500.

Extra for dash or monocouche.

Hoofy

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Tuesday 16th September 2014
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Thanks. Will see what the exact quotes come up with.

Hoofy

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Tuesday 16th September 2014
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I'm considering using some kind of brickwork waterproof coating. I don't really want to throw several thousand at this right now as I've invested a lot in my business so don't have the funds at the mo. Thoughts?

Hoofy

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Wednesday 17th September 2014
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Any thoughts on the question above? Thanks.