No wonder people fly tip
Discussion
seeby said:
Patch1875 said:
Ours are sensible I take my van in and it's ok as long as what I'm dumping doesn't relate to my business.
Ours is the same. Pity all boroughs don't adapt this "sensible" option.Shirley the millions spent on clearing up fly tipped crap would be saved.(and we would all get a refund on our council tax 
)how many people when getting 'a man with a van' check they have a waste carriers licence ?
SlidingSideways said:
My parents council now charge you £40 a year if you want your garden waste collecting from your home. Weekend queues at the local recycling centre now make the place practically unusable!
My council is now £60 per year and there's a waiting list!!!!the neighbouring council (where my parents live) is still free.
I wish there was somewhere local I could pay to get rid of trade waste. I have nowhere secure to put a skip, so either let it build up in my garage and pay someone to remove it or I can chuck it on a waste pile at a builder's yard I do work for. But that means the favours are piling up and I hate being in people's debt.
KTF said:
Just do what everyone else does at ours. Park outside and walk it in.
tried this, had 2 bin bags of bush trimmings and there was a massive queue. Parked legally on the road outside and was just opening the boot when a tip employee came out saying I was not allowed to carry rubbish into the tip. I ignored him and started to get the bags out, at this point he produced a pen and notepad and started to jot the number plate down, he then starts saying he is going to report me to the police, I ask what law I am breaking and says "tip rules". I asked him if it were possible for pedestrians to use the tip and he couldn't answer. Tosser.Someone stole my wheelie bin (yes, really).
The replacement was 25% smaller than anyone else's on the street.
On querying this, I was told that a small bin makes people throw out less; they're standard now and to deal with it. And did I want a composter for my garden? My garden has no grass...
The replacement was 25% smaller than anyone else's on the street.
On querying this, I was told that a small bin makes people throw out less; they're standard now and to deal with it. And did I want a composter for my garden? My garden has no grass...
Brent council have a tip.
We moved to a new flat in the area and went down there with the rented van to chuck a few things in. First time we turned up I (calmly) convinced them that yes I did live in Brent, no I was moving that very day and couldn't prove it; no I wasn't emptying all of the stuff in the van, just a few boxes (due to a lift issue we couldn't get most of our furniture up to the flat so I had to drive it around London for a few days)
They stuck me on the weighbridge on the way in and out - quite funny when the weight was the same both times.
Second and third visits (in the same van) we took everything we could to prove we lived there and had no issues.
I understand it's all about cost - they budget on X,000 people in the borough dropping waste there and if people from outside the borough or traders start using it costs go up, but at the end of the day surely it's better that all waste goes to a place that can deal with it? I drove down a back lane near Gerrards Cross a few months ago.... came round a corner to be faced with a load of rubble in the road. Now I know the ABS works!
Brent council also left food waste bins for each flat. What a waste. It takes a while to fill so food goes rancid in there and then goes into a big bin downstairs anyway. We binned that the bin after a few days.
We moved to a new flat in the area and went down there with the rented van to chuck a few things in. First time we turned up I (calmly) convinced them that yes I did live in Brent, no I was moving that very day and couldn't prove it; no I wasn't emptying all of the stuff in the van, just a few boxes (due to a lift issue we couldn't get most of our furniture up to the flat so I had to drive it around London for a few days)
They stuck me on the weighbridge on the way in and out - quite funny when the weight was the same both times.
Second and third visits (in the same van) we took everything we could to prove we lived there and had no issues.
I understand it's all about cost - they budget on X,000 people in the borough dropping waste there and if people from outside the borough or traders start using it costs go up, but at the end of the day surely it's better that all waste goes to a place that can deal with it? I drove down a back lane near Gerrards Cross a few months ago.... came round a corner to be faced with a load of rubble in the road. Now I know the ABS works!
Brent council also left food waste bins for each flat. What a waste. It takes a while to fill so food goes rancid in there and then goes into a big bin downstairs anyway. We binned that the bin after a few days.
Our small local tip was great, sadly it's now closed. Gone from a ten minute round trip to a 40 minute if I'm lucky depending on how long the queue is. Blokes seem alright there though, no problems with dumping anything so far. Plasterboard was easy, all goes in the general skip.
We also have to pay £40 a year for garden waste to be collected, wouldn't mind so much but the bin is one of those narrow ones, as is our general rubbish one, the recycling one of course is big enough for a small family to live in. Gets collected every other week, I reckon I could go two months before filling it up. The garden bin on the other hand, gets filled up with a couple of cuts of the lawn, and our garden is tiny, takes 5 minutes to cut.
We also have to pay £40 a year for garden waste to be collected, wouldn't mind so much but the bin is one of those narrow ones, as is our general rubbish one, the recycling one of course is big enough for a small family to live in. Gets collected every other week, I reckon I could go two months before filling it up. The garden bin on the other hand, gets filled up with a couple of cuts of the lawn, and our garden is tiny, takes 5 minutes to cut.
Condi said:
p4pedro said:
went to my local tip with garden rubbish in the van , and get the "no vans allowed unless you buy a permit", "so I can drive back home .put it in the boot of my car ,drive back here and put it in that skip" -- " yes "says the little sh!t . Whats all that about - my rubbish is going in that skip so why should it matter in what type of vehicle it arrives in
It stops people taking the piss which is fair enough. If someone was taking van after van wouldnt you feel a bit aggrieved that you're paying for a business to dispose of their waste when every other business is paying themselves? Got caught with a trailer which was 'too big' for the laws of the tip, but as it was quiet common sense won the day!
Mine allow vans and pick ups but you are restricted to 12 times a year - fair enough.
However now they have decided that you can only go between 10-2pm for no justifiable reason.
So now if I go, it's busy with vans, yet I used to go on the way back from dropping my kids to school at 9am and it was quiet.
However now they have decided that you can only go between 10-2pm for no justifiable reason.
So now if I go, it's busy with vans, yet I used to go on the way back from dropping my kids to school at 9am and it was quiet.
]went to my local tip with garden rubbish in the van , and get the "no vans allowed unless you buy a permit", "so I can drive back home .put it in the boot of my car ,drive back here and put it in that skip" -- " yes "says the little sh!t . Whats all that about - my rubbish is going in that skip so why should it matter in what type of vehicle it arrives in
It stops people taking the piss which is fair enough. If someone was taking van after van wouldnt you feel a bit aggrieved that you're paying for a business to dispose of their waste when every other business is paying themselves?
Got caught with a trailer which was 'too big' for the laws of the tip, but as it was quiet common sense won the day!
Why not charge the people who abuse it rather than making life difficult for everyone?
I own a van and a TVR , don't see why I should carry bags of rubbish in my P & J . The quiet B and C roads around teesdale are now littered with all kinds of discarded rubbish
It stops people taking the piss which is fair enough. If someone was taking van after van wouldnt you feel a bit aggrieved that you're paying for a business to dispose of their waste when every other business is paying themselves?
Got caught with a trailer which was 'too big' for the laws of the tip, but as it was quiet common sense won the day!
Why not charge the people who abuse it rather than making life difficult for everyone?
I own a van and a TVR , don't see why I should carry bags of rubbish in my P & J . The quiet B and C roads around teesdale are now littered with all kinds of discarded rubbish
Biggest gripe with our local tip is the weekend opening hours, if I do any garden cutting I need it done by 11am on a Saturday to give me time to clear it up and get it there because it shuts so early. I understand that people don't want to work late on a Sunday, but this is a public tip for the general population, the General population who work all week and therefore only have weekends to do diy. Surely opening until at least mid to late afternoon isn't too much of an ask? They're already shut 3 of the 5 weekdays so they must appreciate that their main business is on the weekend!
As such the conifer I trimmed about 8/9 weeks ago and finished at 12 noon on a Sunday is still piled up next to the house. I'm such a
! But it got wet because I had to leave it unail the following Saturday and it's not going in the car now!
As such the conifer I trimmed about 8/9 weeks ago and finished at 12 noon on a Sunday is still piled up next to the house. I'm such a
! But it got wet because I had to leave it unail the following Saturday and it's not going in the car now!Ah the 1st world problems of the modern day gardener, years ago it would have been branches on the fire and burned on a Winters day and smaller stuff put on the compost heap then recycled and put back on the garden.
Now my Council tax has gone up to pay for my neighbours who can't be bothered to do this...
Now my Council tax has gone up to pay for my neighbours who can't be bothered to do this...
226bhp said:
Ah the 1st world problems of the modern day gardener, years ago it would have been branches on the fire and burned on a Winters day and smaller stuff put on the compost heap then recycled and put back on the garden.
Now my Council tax has gone up to pay for my neighbours who can't be bothered to do this...
tru dat... Now my Council tax has gone up to pay for my neighbours who can't be bothered to do this...
it's amazing how many people think you can't burn garden waste like tree / hedge clippings ... carbons arguments aside.
mph1977 said:
226bhp said:
Ah the 1st world problems of the modern day gardener, years ago it would have been branches on the fire and burned on a Winters day and smaller stuff put on the compost heap then recycled and put back on the garden.
Now my Council tax has gone up to pay for my neighbours who can't be bothered to do this...
tru dat... Now my Council tax has gone up to pay for my neighbours who can't be bothered to do this...
it's amazing how many people think you can't burn garden waste like tree / hedge clippings ... carbons arguments aside.
Having mostly moved out of London the difference in recycling centres, or tips to give them their proper name, is huge. Nearly every time I went to the tip in London it was a hassle for one reason or another, just unpleasant. In the north they help you get stuff out of the boot and sweep the floors, take everything in and so on, couldn't be more different.
On garden rubbish we have 2 big bins collected bi-weekly for free(well no extra charge anyway). The council have a huge garden waste centre where they turn it into compost and sell it, not sure how much money they make but great idea.
In our London place we have 1 green bin that gets collected weekly, even though it is a terraced house with no grass and a few borders. I can see charges coming in here as it must cost the council a lot and be pretty much unused by the vast majority.
On garden rubbish we have 2 big bins collected bi-weekly for free(well no extra charge anyway). The council have a huge garden waste centre where they turn it into compost and sell it, not sure how much money they make but great idea.
In our London place we have 1 green bin that gets collected weekly, even though it is a terraced house with no grass and a few borders. I can see charges coming in here as it must cost the council a lot and be pretty much unused by the vast majority.
Vipers said:
mph1977 said:
226bhp said:
Ah the 1st world problems of the modern day gardener, years ago it would have been branches on the fire and burned on a Winters day and smaller stuff put on the compost heap then recycled and put back on the garden.
Now my Council tax has gone up to pay for my neighbours who can't be bothered to do this...
tru dat... Now my Council tax has gone up to pay for my neighbours who can't be bothered to do this...
it's amazing how many people think you can't burn garden waste like tree / hedge clippings ... carbons arguments aside.
The other point is that people then go and buy chemical fertilisers in plastic bags to put on the plants. The leftover ash from the fire can be put on the garden (if needed) and the compost heap too: http://www.gardeningknowhow.com/composting/ingredi...
It's all very corporate these days. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwJlZrNPviY
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