Help: Posts sizes for an Oak framed garage
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singlecoil said:
MintSprint said:
singlecoil said:
You might be surprised at how much I know about oak framed buildings.
Possibly. I can only base my judgement on what you have said, of course, and what you said[i], suggested a limited knowledge of [i]structural design (nothing to do with oak framed buildings, specifically). Or maybe it was just a poor and injudicious choice of language. Either way, I felt it would be helpful to other readers of the thread to expound.
You only have to look at the amount of distortion that has occurred in many of our older oak framed buildings to recognise that whilst the artisan craftsmen who created them had a lifetime's experience in oak framing, they knew diddley squat about structural analysis.
So singlecoil, I think your last comment was a little rude and added absolutely nothing to this thread apart from perhaps a little hilarity.
ATTAK Z said:
In my opinion, MintSprint knows what he's talking about. If I wanted to know more about timber framed buildings, I would ask him; if I wanted to know more about lutherie, I would probably bypass him and ask you (or Justin Cyder).
I was quite serious, he is more than welcome to have all the timber framed building questions to himself. He does this full time, whereas it's only a part time activity for me and, as you note, I am far more involved with guitars, their construction and repair now. I've never so much as held a lute, though, in fact I don't think I've ever even seen one in the wood.singlecoil said:
ATTAK Z said:
... if I wanted to know more about lutherie, I would probably bypass him and ask you.
I was quite serious,........ I am far more involved with guitars, their construction and repair now. I've never so much as held a lute, though, in fact I don't think I've ever even seen one in the wood.but today it's more usually applied to guitar making.
Here's an off topic gratuitous picture of one of my lutes
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Edited by Elderly on Saturday 1st November 16:44
Barreti said:
Some brilliant answers chaps, and thanks.
And you know what they say about a picture being a thousand words. They're a great help too, because sitting at my desk today staring at the 6" mark on a ruler looked piddling. So thanks, they have helped visualise it in context.
The tiles on the house which we said we would match are concrete panties, though the builder said something about newer panties which are ok with the lower pitch roof on the garage kit of our choice.
Keep your panties to yourself!And you know what they say about a picture being a thousand words. They're a great help too, because sitting at my desk today staring at the 6" mark on a ruler looked piddling. So thanks, they have helped visualise it in context.
The tiles on the house which we said we would match are concrete panties, though the builder said something about newer panties which are ok with the lower pitch roof on the garage kit of our choice.
ATTAK Z said:
In my opinion, MintSprint knows what he's talking about. If I wanted to know more about timber framed buildings, I would ask him; if I wanted to know more about lutherie, I would probably bypass him and ask you (or Justin Cyder).
So singlecoil, I think your last comment was a little rude and added absolutely nothing to this thread apart from perhaps a little hilarity.
Agreed, mans taken the time to type a lot of detail, and I found it educational, and appreciate the effort. A pissing contest about who knows more about what ? WGAF ?So singlecoil, I think your last comment was a little rude and added absolutely nothing to this thread apart from perhaps a little hilarity.
roofer said:
ATTAK Z said:
In my opinion, MintSprint knows what he's talking about. If I wanted to know more about timber framed buildings, I would ask him; if I wanted to know more about lutherie, I would probably bypass him and ask you (or Justin Cyder).
So singlecoil, I think your last comment was a little rude and added absolutely nothing to this thread apart from perhaps a little hilarity.
Agreed, mans taken the time to type a lot of detail, and I found it educational, and appreciate the effort. A pissing contest about who knows more about what ? WGAF ?So singlecoil, I think your last comment was a little rude and added absolutely nothing to this thread apart from perhaps a little hilarity.
I suggest we all let it drop.
Well at the risk of stirring everything back up again, I thought I would update this thread as the oak frame started being erected yesterday.
3 x 175mm oak posts of the like I now have sitting on the mini wall would, in my opinion, hold up a jumbo jet!
The 6mtr posts are so heavy the builders can't actually lift them and have resorted to moving them around with the mini digger.
I'll post (excuse the pun) some photos if anyone is interested. I hope they have a few of the top beams up by the time I get home tonight.
Oh btw, I never saw the panties ipad clanger. Sorry about that and I'm glad it gave a few of you a laugh
3 x 175mm oak posts of the like I now have sitting on the mini wall would, in my opinion, hold up a jumbo jet!
The 6mtr posts are so heavy the builders can't actually lift them and have resorted to moving them around with the mini digger.
I'll post (excuse the pun) some photos if anyone is interested. I hope they have a few of the top beams up by the time I get home tonight.
Oh btw, I never saw the panties ipad clanger. Sorry about that and I'm glad it gave a few of you a laugh
Origin Unknown said:
Looks bloody lovely!
Might be further back in the thread but how are the sides and back finished?
The internal frame is visible, with panels made to fit into the gaps. The panels are clad in oak boarding.Might be further back in the thread but how are the sides and back finished?
We've learned a couple of lessons.
The supplier sent the 3 main oak sections too short- longest 6mtr pieces from back to front. That set us back about a month.
The stone plinths the front uprights stand on are covered in tanin from the oak. It might wash off, I havent tried yet. But the stonemason is a mate so I can get new ones if I need to. Getting the old ones out would be a sod of a job though.
The side oak-clad frames need pushing out a tad as water drips onto the bottom oak frame beam and then comes in. We could cure it with flashing but it will spoil the look so we will try moving things a little first.
I have to say my builder has been very good with ideas like chamfered bricks on the concrete pad and on the plinth for the frame.
He also made up soffits and facias with the spare oak cladding to stop the worst of the wind whistling through an otherwise open roof.
The drive is unfinished as it was originally planned to be gravel. But after having the path done I changed my mind and its now going to be block paved in black block to match the colour of the tarmac of the rest of the drive.
Maybe then I can get his mini digger out of the garage and use it !
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