Central Heating - quote

[jason61c]

FlipFlopGriff said:

We only used a bag a week during the summer to heat the water, so about £2.50 per week. It'll use more until its dried out and you've got a good base heat. We set ours to 15 degrees minimum so its always reasonably warm and it ticks over nicely with a boost on the morning and early evening.
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That would make sense, the 730ltr hopper we've got should last most of the summer.

As a side note, I've just had my bits though from MCS, went online and signed up for my RHI, took about 5mins, so we're now going to be getting £4016 a year for the next 7 years, Heating install and garage paid for, I've just put some of my staropramen in the fridge

[FlipFlopGriff]

jason61c said:

That would make sense, the 730ltr hopper we've got should last most of the summer.

As a side note, I've just had my bits though from MCS, went online and signed up for my RHI, took about 5mins, so we're now going to be getting £4016 a year for the next 7 years, Heating install and garage paid for, I've just put some of my staropramen in the fridge

We keep ours topped up as its pretty easy to do (the pellets) and you can then make sure you're full when you place an order when you need it. Save a Staropramen for me!!
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[jason61c]

FlipFlopGriff said:

We keep ours topped up as its pretty easy to do (the pellets) and you can then make sure you're full when you place an order when you need it. Save a Staropramen for me!!
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I will do!! Just need to sorting out the last tiny weep and getting floorboards back down.

[halo34]

Sorry for not updating the thread for a bit - I got a bit bogged down with all the bits and pieces so went to ground a bit.

All the paperwork is ready to go, I also had a joiner round to price some of the changes we want to make to the house next yr.

At the moment its a toss up between selling and doing the work however, so we need to make our minds up a little.

Its bloody cold in the house at the moment - so this would make a massive difference, but the other work pushes the limits of what I want to spend and even then not sure will be 100% happy with the house.

So in summary ready to go with Bio Mass - not so ready in the sense need to make some financial decisions first.

[halo34]

So after much hurdle hopping we are down to the wire in terms of getting the RHI before it drops in April.

So sat at home right now waiting for the Windhager boiler to arrive today

Looking forward to it actually - sitting at home shows how bloody awful storage heaters are.

[FlipFlopGriff]

halo34 said:

So after much hurdle hopping we are down to the wire in terms of getting the RHI before it drops in April.

So sat at home right now waiting for the Windhager boiler to arrive today

Looking forward to it actually - sitting at home shows how bloody awful storage heaters are.

Sounds good. Hope you've got some help as ours was about 400kg and it took 5 blokes to get it into the room and off the pallet - its is bolted on in a few places so you'll need to remove these before you can get it off the pallet.
Is it a Biowin 2 with the flue exit on the top. If so wish our was as the exit is at the back and its impossible to access now.
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[halo34]

FlipFlopGriff said:

Sounds good. Hope you've got some help as ours was about 400kg and it took 5 blokes to get it into the room and off the pallet - its is bolted on in a few places so you'll need to remove these before you can get it off the pallet.
Is it a Biowin 2 with the flue exit on the top. If so wish our was as the exit is at the back and its impossible to access now.
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Apparently its on a pallet and can stay on it I hope - its going straight into the garage which is flat heading onto the drive so hope its easy!!

I don't know - I think it is, its the Exclusiv model according to the tear inducing invoice.

[FlipFlopGriff]

Pretty sure it'll have to be sat on solid ground as it does vibrate a little and it wouldn't be the best idea to sit the burner compartment directly on combustible material.
To get HETAS sign off you'll need to keep an are in front of the unit clear and marked off as such - from memory around 30cm
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[halo34]

halo34 said:

Apparently its on a pallet and can stay on it I hope - its going straight into the garage which is flat heading onto the drive so hope its easy!!

I don't know - I think it is, its the Exclusiv model according to the tear inducing invoice.

Ah yeah according to the model designation its the BIOWIN2 EXKLUSIV

It's going outside and needed to take up minimal garage space.

EDIT - Solid Concrete garage floor so no issues there I don't think.

[halo34]

Well all in the garage now, took a bit of effort with the delivery driver (he assumed a squad would be here working on the house!).

All present and correct, much smaller than I expected too actually.

I went for weather compensation controls after some haggling given how variable it can be here - this winters been a real mix of warm days to cold nights and weird patterns.

[jason61c]

Good man

[FlipFlopGriff]

Ensure you keep the pellets dry. Are you feeding manually through a hopper? If so where are you storing the pellets?
woodpelletfuel.co.uk are generally the cheapest and only on a 2-3 day lead time. I always e-mail Kenny and request a delivery day. Use the Woodlets pellets as the bags are better quality - not noticed any difference in ash quality or quantity compared to the Verdo pellets.
Let us know how you get on with it.
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[halo34]

Thanks FFG...

The garage is not used for a car ever, so the plan at the moment is to store the bags in there. Plenty of space and they can be kept at the far end away from the boiler.

Its large well built detached garage so pretty dry.

I can then work out consumption and whether I want to build something outside.

Oh and its a 200kg manual hopper so I guess around a weeks run time in the winter.

[FlipFlopGriff]

halo34 said:

Thanks FFG...

The garage is not used for a car ever, so the plan at the moment is to store the bags in there. Plenty of space and they can be kept at the far end away from the boiler.

Its large well built detached garage so pretty dry.

I can then work out consumption and whether I want to build something outside.

Oh and its a 200kg manual hopper so I guess around a weeks run time in the winter.

If the floor is concrete may be worth keeping them on a pallet so there is air circulation and they don't absorb the damp from the floor. If you keep it topped up the pellets should dry more inside the hopper. I'm consistently using 3-4 bags a day when its been cold (the last month), with the heating only set to 18 degrees for 90 mins in the morning and 5 hours in the evening. Min temp. is set to 15 which is throughout the night and during the day. It works better this way and uses less fuel as the temperature differential it has to make up is smaller and its ticking over (modulation mode) rather than being at full tilt.

[herewego]

FlipFlopGriff said:

If the floor is concrete may be worth keeping them on a pallet so there is air circulation and they don't absorb the damp from the floor. If you keep it topped up the pellets should dry more inside the hopper. I'm consistently using 3-4 bags a day when its been cold (the last month), with the heating only set to 18 degrees for 90 mins in the morning and 5 hours in the evening. Min temp. is set to 15 which is throughout the night and during the day. It works better this way and uses less fuel as the temperature differential it has to make up is smaller and its ticking over (modulation mode) rather than being at full tilt.

In what way does it work better?

[halo34]

FlipFlopGriff said:

If the floor is concrete may be worth keeping them on a pallet so there is air circulation and they don't absorb the damp from the floor. If you keep it topped up the pellets should dry more inside the hopper. I'm consistently using 3-4 bags a day when its been cold (the last month), with the heating only set to 18 degrees for 90 mins in the morning and 5 hours in the evening. Min temp. is set to 15 which is throughout the night and during the day. It works better this way and uses less fuel as the temperature differential it has to make up is smaller and its ticking over (modulation mode) rather than being at full tilt.

Was size of boiler is that FFG?

Will keep the bags on the pallet in that case - my plan was to have two at any time so that we don't have to panic buy.

[jason61c]

During the cold months we were using 3x12.5kg bags a day, heating and hot water, heating on full weather comp(18deg inside) 15deg overnight. Family of 5.

Its been costing about £300 a month during 'peak use' so winter etc, It should drop down to about £80 a month over summer.

[halo34]

jason61c said:

During the cold months we were using 3x12.5kg bags a day, heating and hot water, heating on full weather comp(18deg inside) 15deg overnight. Family of 5.

Its been costing about £300 a month during 'peak use' so winter etc, It should drop down to about £80 a month over summer.

What kind of size of boiler ?

[jason61c]

35kw, it modulates though. Works out exactly the same usage as FFG.

[FlipFlopGriff]

herewego said:

In what way does it work better?

Better to modulate, ie tick over and no go cold and have to heat up from scratch. An analogy bit like full acceleration then stopping as opposed to keeping at a constant 50mph.
Was to this by Windhager and have no reason to dispute it. Been installed for 16 months now and very happy with it - 21kw in a 225m2 property with an EPC of G1 which isn't good. Listed and single glazed around 350 years old.
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