Property devaluing advice.
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Hello all.
I have posted on here as I know what a wide range of people use this forum.
I am lucky enough to live on a modest estate in which my house is right on the edge and backs onto rented farm land. The fields behind my house extend some way back and my view on a good day shows the Welsh Hills of Moel Famau. My garden is open at the back and affords me a stunning view and great sunsets.
I have recently had letters from the council with regards various plans submitted by a very well known national builder who wish to build on the fields, eventually resulting in housing which will back right onto my property. My views will be ruined and I will as such live in the middle of two estates.
I have submitted objections along various lines, including noise, extra traffic, the disturbance of local buzzards and other wildlife, the fact that almost non of the property is what I would consider affordable (for the area) and most personal to me, the local town is in decline, not growth, and most importantly to me the fact that i feel the value of my property will be reduced, as one of the main selling points is its outstanding view.
Does anyone have a similar experience to this, and have you ever heard of a situation where a home owner would be compensated due to a loss of value to their home? I do not live in an area of outstanding natural beauty, neither is my house worth a huge amount of money, but it is my little castle, and until I can afford a big place in the countryside, its about the best I can achieve.
Any info would be much appreciated.
I have posted on here as I know what a wide range of people use this forum.
I am lucky enough to live on a modest estate in which my house is right on the edge and backs onto rented farm land. The fields behind my house extend some way back and my view on a good day shows the Welsh Hills of Moel Famau. My garden is open at the back and affords me a stunning view and great sunsets.
I have recently had letters from the council with regards various plans submitted by a very well known national builder who wish to build on the fields, eventually resulting in housing which will back right onto my property. My views will be ruined and I will as such live in the middle of two estates.
I have submitted objections along various lines, including noise, extra traffic, the disturbance of local buzzards and other wildlife, the fact that almost non of the property is what I would consider affordable (for the area) and most personal to me, the local town is in decline, not growth, and most importantly to me the fact that i feel the value of my property will be reduced, as one of the main selling points is its outstanding view.
Does anyone have a similar experience to this, and have you ever heard of a situation where a home owner would be compensated due to a loss of value to their home? I do not live in an area of outstanding natural beauty, neither is my house worth a huge amount of money, but it is my little castle, and until I can afford a big place in the countryside, its about the best I can achieve.
Any info would be much appreciated.
I can't help, but it always amazes me why they allow that sort building in villages (I assume it's a village). I moved to a village to avoid massive new-builds and lots of people, yet they insist on expanding those type of areas. So,far we've been lucky, but there's plans afoot I believe.
A certain percentage of this new build will be council housing. Look forward to that. Expect beer cans and dog s
t in front of your door soon.
A similar thing happened to my parents. They moved into a new build about 10 years ago, everything was fine for a few years while the original plans were going ahead with all the houses being built. They then decided to build an office in the middle of the housing which wasn't in the plans, this flooded the area with cars. They also knocked down a fire station and build another 30 houses that overlook my parents garden (on a hill) and block out sunlight and ruin their privacy. As part of the extra houses that got built, the rules had changed and a percentage of the homes had to be affordable houses rented out by the council. The area has gone to the dogs now, full of scum bags with no respect for anything. They got well and truly screwed over by the company that built the houses, think they've lost about 100k off the value (some will be due to the recession but not all of it)
t in front of your door soon. A similar thing happened to my parents. They moved into a new build about 10 years ago, everything was fine for a few years while the original plans were going ahead with all the houses being built. They then decided to build an office in the middle of the housing which wasn't in the plans, this flooded the area with cars. They also knocked down a fire station and build another 30 houses that overlook my parents garden (on a hill) and block out sunlight and ruin their privacy. As part of the extra houses that got built, the rules had changed and a percentage of the homes had to be affordable houses rented out by the council. The area has gone to the dogs now, full of scum bags with no respect for anything. They got well and truly screwed over by the company that built the houses, think they've lost about 100k off the value (some will be due to the recession but not all of it)
SteBrown91 said:
Sorry, mate but you come across as the "not in my back yard" brigade.
No-one has the right to a view, and unless the house was sold on a contact where they guaranteed no building behind you there is little you can do.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a swampy sort or anything like that, just someone who loves their view and position. There are loads of brown sites near here which could be used, that said the town is in decline, so I can't see why 200 new detached houses are needed. I'm all for progress for a purpose, but this seems pointless.No-one has the right to a view, and unless the house was sold on a contact where they guaranteed no building behind you there is little you can do.
Escy said:
A certain percentage of this new build will be council housing. Look forward to that. Expect beer cans and dog st in front of your door soon.
A similar thing happened to my parents. They moved into a new build about 10 years ago, everything was fine for a few years while the original plans were going ahead with all the houses being built. They then decided to build an office in the middle of the housing which wasn't in the plans, this flooded the area with cars. They also knocked down a fire station and build another 30 houses that overlook my parents garden (on a hill) and block out sunlight and ruin their privacy. As part of the extra houses that got built, the rules had changed and a percentage of the homes had to be affordable houses rented out by the council. The area has gone to the dogs now, full of scum bags with no respect for anything. They got well and truly screwed over by the company that built the houses, think they've lost about 100k off the value (some will be due to the recession but not all of it)
Gutted for your parents.t in front of your door soon. A similar thing happened to my parents. They moved into a new build about 10 years ago, everything was fine for a few years while the original plans were going ahead with all the houses being built. They then decided to build an office in the middle of the housing which wasn't in the plans, this flooded the area with cars. They also knocked down a fire station and build another 30 houses that overlook my parents garden (on a hill) and block out sunlight and ruin their privacy. As part of the extra houses that got built, the rules had changed and a percentage of the homes had to be affordable houses rented out by the council. The area has gone to the dogs now, full of scum bags with no respect for anything. They got well and truly screwed over by the company that built the houses, think they've lost about 100k off the value (some will be due to the recession but not all of it)
Sounds like you live very close to us in Denbigh, although according to a post you made two weeks ago you live in Great Sutton ( you're doing well if you can see the Clwyds from there). I think the deal is done, frankly, and nothing will change the decision. On the bright side, Home Bargains are taking over the old Kwiksave site.....
Edited by Patrick1964 on Tuesday 16th December 20:03
Edited by Patrick1964 on Tuesday 16th December 20:04
Patrick1964 said:
Sounds like you live very close to us in Denbigh, although according to a post you made two weeks ago you live in Great Sutton ( you're doing well if you can see the Clwyds from there). I think the deal is done, frankly, and nothing will change the decision. On the bright side, Home Bargains are taking over the old Kwiksave site.....
Great Sutton is where I live. It's a great spot, will just be gutted if we loose the view. Model Famau is an easy spot on a clear day. Edited by Patrick1964 on Tuesday 16th December 20:03
Edited by Patrick1964 on Tuesday 16th December 20:04
il-mostro said:
I have submitted objections along various lines, including noise, extra traffic, the disturbance of local buzzards and other wildlife, the fact that almost non of the property is what I would consider affordable (for the area) and most personal to me, the local town is in decline, not growth, and most importantly to me the fact that i feel the value of my property will be reduced, as one of the main selling points is its outstanding view.
Does anyone have a similar experience to this, and have you ever heard of a situation where a home owner would be compensated due to a loss of value to their home?
Sorry, but not only is "My house will be worth less" not acceptable grounds for objecting to a planning application, but there's absolutely no requirement for compensation.Does anyone have a similar experience to this, and have you ever heard of a situation where a home owner would be compensated due to a loss of value to their home?
Think of it the other way - if a local development meant that your house value rose, would you be happy if the developers asked for part of that rise in value?
Escy said:
A certain percentage of this new build will be council housing. Look forward to that. Expect beer cans and dog st in front of your door soon.
A similar thing happened to my parents. They moved into a new build about 10 years ago, everything was fine for a few years while the original plans were going ahead with all the houses being built. They then decided to build an office in the middle of the housing which wasn't in the plans, this flooded the area with cars. They also knocked down a fire station and build another 30 houses that overlook my parents garden (on a hill) and block out sunlight and ruin their privacy. As part of the extra houses that got built, the rules had changed and a percentage of the homes had to be affordable houses rented out by the council. The area has gone to the dogs now, full of scum bags with no respect for anything. They got well and truly screwed over by the company that built the houses, think they've lost about 100k off the value (some will be due to the recession but not all of it)
similar thing happened to my mate, bought a lovely 4 bed detached early in the site development worth about £300k well away from the proposed social housing. Only for the national house builder to re-draw the plans once they had sold phase 1 which was mainly all detached houses and move all the social housing right next to them. After about 2yrs of having his bbq, garden shed broken into etc he had no choice but to rent it out as wasn't worth the same money and couldn't face living there anymore.t in front of your door soon. A similar thing happened to my parents. They moved into a new build about 10 years ago, everything was fine for a few years while the original plans were going ahead with all the houses being built. They then decided to build an office in the middle of the housing which wasn't in the plans, this flooded the area with cars. They also knocked down a fire station and build another 30 houses that overlook my parents garden (on a hill) and block out sunlight and ruin their privacy. As part of the extra houses that got built, the rules had changed and a percentage of the homes had to be affordable houses rented out by the council. The area has gone to the dogs now, full of scum bags with no respect for anything. They got well and truly screwed over by the company that built the houses, think they've lost about 100k off the value (some will be due to the recession but not all of it)
TooMany2cvs said:
Sorry, but not only is "My house will be worth less" not acceptable grounds for objecting to a planning application, but there's absolutely no requirement for compensation.
Think of it the other way - if a local development meant that your house value rose, would you be happy if the developers asked for part of that rise in value?
Another objector had made this point which raised my eyebrows if surprised me a little, hence why I posted here a get a greater range of responses.Think of it the other way - if a local development meant that your house value rose, would you be happy if the developers asked for part of that rise in value?
The general consensus would be that I have no grounds which put me back to where I was about 3 hrs ago before I even new of this option, so nothing lost really.
I guess I'm gonna have to accept that it will most likely happen. The houses do appear on the plans at least, pretty top end 3 and 4 bed detached houses, with i think about 8 terraced houses. I'm not worried about ASB issues as I don't think that will be a problem, I'm just more upset about the loss of once lovely land.
caterhamboy said:
similar thing happened to my mate, bought a lovely 4 bed detached early in the site development worth about £300k well away from the proposed social housing. Only for the national house builder to re-draw the plans once they had sold phase 1 which was mainly all detached houses and move all the social housing right next to them. After about 2yrs of having his bbq, garden shed broken into etc he had no choice but to rent it out as wasn't worth the same money and couldn't face living there anymore.
I for one cannot stand this forced social integration with local scum. There is no good reason why social housing must be built next to a 'nice' area. If they want to live in a house next to mine they should get a job and pay for the fker themselves.Unfortunately none of what you've mentioned is a valid planning reason.
If you look on your council site it will give reasons - try reading your Local Plan and see if it conflicts with that.
Otherwise you probably can't influence it.
Having worked for Developers I can only say that 90% of the time they are against us building on fields so if they can't find a reason, I doubt you will.
If you look on your council site it will give reasons - try reading your Local Plan and see if it conflicts with that.
Otherwise you probably can't influence it.
Having worked for Developers I can only say that 90% of the time they are against us building on fields so if they can't find a reason, I doubt you will.
caterhamboy said:
Escy said:
A certain percentage of this new build will be council housing. Look forward to that. Expect beer cans and dog st in front of your door soon.
A similar thing happened to my parents. They moved into a new build about 10 years ago, everything was fine for a few years while the original plans were going ahead with all the houses being built. They then decided to build an office in the middle of the housing which wasn't in the plans, this flooded the area with cars. They also knocked down a fire station and build another 30 houses that overlook my parents garden (on a hill) and block out sunlight and ruin their privacy. As part of the extra houses that got built, the rules had changed and a percentage of the homes had to be affordable houses rented out by the council. The area has gone to the dogs now, full of scum bags with no respect for anything. They got well and truly screwed over by the company that built the houses, think they've lost about 100k off the value (some will be due to the recession but not all of it)
similar thing happened to my mate, bought a lovely 4 bed detached early in the site development worth about £300k well away from the proposed social housing. Only for the national house builder to re-draw the plans once they had sold phase 1 which was mainly all detached houses and move all the social housing right next to them. After about 2yrs of having his bbq, garden shed broken into etc he had no choice but to rent it out as wasn't worth the same money and couldn't face living there anymore.t in front of your door soon. A similar thing happened to my parents. They moved into a new build about 10 years ago, everything was fine for a few years while the original plans were going ahead with all the houses being built. They then decided to build an office in the middle of the housing which wasn't in the plans, this flooded the area with cars. They also knocked down a fire station and build another 30 houses that overlook my parents garden (on a hill) and block out sunlight and ruin their privacy. As part of the extra houses that got built, the rules had changed and a percentage of the homes had to be affordable houses rented out by the council. The area has gone to the dogs now, full of scum bags with no respect for anything. They got well and truly screwed over by the company that built the houses, think they've lost about 100k off the value (some will be due to the recession but not all of it)
OP, you say they are building posh houses but there will be a quota of social houses that have to be built.
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