Property devaluing advice.
Discussion
il-mostro said:
SteBrown91 said:
Sorry, mate but you come across as the "not in my back yard" brigade.
No-one has the right to a view, and unless the house was sold on a contact where they guaranteed no building behind you there is little you can do.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a swampy sort or anything like that, just someone who loves their view and position. There are loads of brown sites near here which could be used, that said the town is in decline, so I can't see why 200 new detached houses are needed. I'm all for progress for a purpose, but this seems pointless.No-one has the right to a view, and unless the house was sold on a contact where they guaranteed no building behind you there is little you can do.
Wow, didn't think this thread would generate so many responses! For and against.
The be honest, I fully understand the 'not in my back yard' comments, if I was of such a sensitive disposition that I got offended, I'm on the wrong forum and should probably avoid most of the internet!
Yes, my house is part of an estate that was built about 25years ago. There were very few homes on this land before the estate was built, but yes, I guess the very building of this estate will have ruined someone's view.
No, I am not a buzzard champion, I am a keen photographer and love trying to get pictures of these glorious birds, but they always outmanoeuvre me, but not for want of trying.
I put that Ellesmere Port is a town on decline, so why more housing? If it was a boom town and was attracting loads of workers from surrounding areas, I could understand a little more, but it isn't.
I know I am not entitled to a view by right or otherwise. A person outside of this thread had suggested compensation and I had no idea if this was a possibility, but that seems to be a complete non starter, which I can totally understand.
I guess this is just progress, I either wear it or move. Fact of life, get over it. I will be gutted, but there you go.
Thanks for the comments.
The be honest, I fully understand the 'not in my back yard' comments, if I was of such a sensitive disposition that I got offended, I'm on the wrong forum and should probably avoid most of the internet!
Yes, my house is part of an estate that was built about 25years ago. There were very few homes on this land before the estate was built, but yes, I guess the very building of this estate will have ruined someone's view.
No, I am not a buzzard champion, I am a keen photographer and love trying to get pictures of these glorious birds, but they always outmanoeuvre me, but not for want of trying.
I put that Ellesmere Port is a town on decline, so why more housing? If it was a boom town and was attracting loads of workers from surrounding areas, I could understand a little more, but it isn't.
I know I am not entitled to a view by right or otherwise. A person outside of this thread had suggested compensation and I had no idea if this was a possibility, but that seems to be a complete non starter, which I can totally understand.
I guess this is just progress, I either wear it or move. Fact of life, get over it. I will be gutted, but there you go.
Thanks for the comments.
Pit Pony said:
People NEED housing. There is a housing shortage. people don't want to live on an old chemical factory site, so developers want to build on virgin farm land. How would you solve the problem ?
They probably don't want to live within 1/4 mile of a nuclear waste storage facility which is set to grow massively if a contract up for discussion gets agreed, but I doubt that will be in the advertising spiel. They have redeveloped a load of brown site near the M53 at Ellesmere Port which seems to have gone down very well. There are still plenty of sites around there.
Can we just clear one thing up here, affordable housing IS NOT COUNCIL STREET SLUMS, it is just housing that is AFFORDABLE to average Joe. This is mainly young couples, single folks, first time buyers etc etc. I bought into affordable housing, my mates bought into affordable housing, anyone getting onto the housing ladder will buy into affordable housing ....stop spreading the doom & gloom and miss informed information.
OP, you might loose the views but the centre will get a real boost with the influx of several hundred new shoppers. Additionally, it will probably be years & years & years before anything ever happens. We have been warned about 2 new estates down the road for almost 5 years now, after lots of talk eventually got planning permission about 18months ago. After initial concerns over them, I'm now actually hoping it happens for the sake of the town centre & new services/shops that will follow suit. That being said.... nothing yet, farmer keeps on ploughing...
OP, you might loose the views but the centre will get a real boost with the influx of several hundred new shoppers. Additionally, it will probably be years & years & years before anything ever happens. We have been warned about 2 new estates down the road for almost 5 years now, after lots of talk eventually got planning permission about 18months ago. After initial concerns over them, I'm now actually hoping it happens for the sake of the town centre & new services/shops that will follow suit. That being said.... nothing yet, farmer keeps on ploughing...
Edited by Andehh on Wednesday 17th December 21:14
Edited by Andehh on Wednesday 17th December 21:17
Developers won't build where there is no market so there must be some demand.
I can sympathise with the op, but TBH is just bad luck, houses have to be built somewhere. We build on greenfield and brownfield, the greenfield ones generally provide somethimg closer to what most of us would think of as making a home for a family. Brownfield by its very nature needs higher densities to cover the higher development costs, it tends be be in locations where people dont want to live.
Op, by all means objectr, its not wrong to object, and its not probably not even wrong to be a NIMBy, but in essence governement both locak and central has poslcies, if the development meets the policy requirements, then there is not much you can do to stop it.
To stop this type of development communities need to get themselves involved in the local plan process much earlier, generally they always sleepwalk in to objecting to an application and thats just too late.
To get a typical site to the point of a planning consent costs me circa £100k, I wont spend the money if I dont think I will win, and most developers think the same. So they are reasonably confident that the application complies with the main polocies around housing need and location.
I can sympathise with the op, but TBH is just bad luck, houses have to be built somewhere. We build on greenfield and brownfield, the greenfield ones generally provide somethimg closer to what most of us would think of as making a home for a family. Brownfield by its very nature needs higher densities to cover the higher development costs, it tends be be in locations where people dont want to live.
Op, by all means objectr, its not wrong to object, and its not probably not even wrong to be a NIMBy, but in essence governement both locak and central has poslcies, if the development meets the policy requirements, then there is not much you can do to stop it.
To stop this type of development communities need to get themselves involved in the local plan process much earlier, generally they always sleepwalk in to objecting to an application and thats just too late.
To get a typical site to the point of a planning consent costs me circa £100k, I wont spend the money if I dont think I will win, and most developers think the same. So they are reasonably confident that the application complies with the main polocies around housing need and location.
il-mostro said:
A person outside of this thread had suggested compensation and I had no idea if this was a possibility, but that seems to be a complete non starter, which I can totally understand.
Compensation tends to be for public schemes rather than private.A poster earlier mentioned a park and ride scheme on farmland - is this a publicly promoted scheme or a private initiative?
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