Bleeding a radiator - noob quesiton

Bleeding a radiator - noob quesiton

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ChemicalChaos

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10,387 posts

160 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Hi all,

I need to bleed a radiator in my house, I have looked online for instructions and it says "turn the central heating off first". Am I right in thinking that just means that you cant bleed it whilst the heating is circulating (which would of course be dumb), or does it mean you actually have to switch the boiler off even if it is not currently in a central heating cycle? (Doing so will mess up the programming and I dont have the codes to reset it)

Torquey

1,895 posts

228 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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I'm sure you do NOT need to turn off your boiler.
Just bleed it at any time. I do mine when its heating up so I can feel the hot water rise to the top of the radiator.

I'd maybe suggest familiarising yourself with topping up the water pressure in the heating system first as this will drop when you bleed them.

Pickled Piper

6,339 posts

235 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Just turn down the thermostat so the boiler is alight but not firing and the pump is not running.

pp

vescaegg

25,529 posts

167 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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I always do it when they (the bottoms) are hot so that i can feel the hot water fill the rest up when I bleed them.....

Easiest way and have never had a problem.

ChemicalChaos

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10,387 posts

160 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Thanks chaps smile

geeks

9,164 posts

139 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Top tip, start with the rad that has the longest run to/from the boiler...

Simpo Two

85,359 posts

265 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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It's just releasing trapped air from the top of a radiator. I can't think it would matter whether the boiler is running or not. Just hold a cloth under the (top) valve, undo the square bit slowly until you hear air hissing out, then retighten immediately you see water. Presto, no more trapped air.

CorradoTDI

1,455 posts

171 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Make sure you check the pressure before you start and top back up via the filling loop afterwards!

megaphone

10,719 posts

251 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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You need to think about why you're getting air in the system in the first place, assuming it's a sealed pressurised system?

boyse7en

6,712 posts

165 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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megaphone said:
You need to think about why you're getting air in the system in the first place, assuming it's a sealed pressurised system?
If its anything like my house, where the pipes are all under the solid oak flooring, it is probably best not to think about how the air is getting in.

EdJ

1,284 posts

195 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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boyse7en said:
If its anything like my house, where the pipes are all under the solid oak flooring, it is probably best not to think about how the air is getting in.
hehe - I know exactly what you mean.

caiss4

1,876 posts

197 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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The reason for bleeding with then the pump is not running is to remove the risk of drawing air in to the system in an open system.

If it is a pressurised system and there's a lot of air released you may have to refill to bring the system pressure back up to the recommended level.

ChemicalChaos

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10,387 posts

160 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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How do i tell if its an open or closed system? Its a student house and I dont know much about the boiler (hence why not wanting to have to switch it off!)

ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

180 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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ChemicalChaos said:
How do i tell if its an open or closed system? Its a student house and I dont know much about the boiler (hence why not wanting to have to switch it off!)
Post a picture of the boiler.

Extra points if you are in the picture.


Rickyy

6,618 posts

219 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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The whole "turn the heating off to bleed" isn't really necessary tbh.

The thinking behind it is that you'll empty the F+E cistern faster than the mains can refill it, this drawing air into the system pipework.

Bleeding one or two rads isn't going to do that!

The only thing to worry about, is if it's a sealed system, your going to have to re-pressurise the system afterwards.

If it's a combi boiler, it is highly likely to be a sealed system.

ChemicalChaos

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10,387 posts

160 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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I tried to do a boiler selfie, but it didnt work so here's the best I could do. its not a combi system as we have a hot water tank upstairs:


Rickyy

6,618 posts

219 months

Wednesday 17th December 2014
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Ideal Classic, it will almost certainly be open vented. Bleed away, there should be a tank in the loft that will refill itself.

Edited by Rickyy on Wednesday 17th December 18:31

ChemicalChaos

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Wednesday 17th December 2014
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ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

180 months

Thursday 18th December 2014
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Rickyy said:
Ideal Classic, it will almost certainly be open vented. Bleed away, there should be a tank in the loft that will refill itself.

Edited by Rickyy on Wednesday 17th December 18:31
Yes, looks like an open system so no need to refill the system after you've bled. As long as the heating isn't on when you bleed you'll be fine and even if it is, you'll probably be fine.

ManFromDelmonte

2,742 posts

180 months

Monday 22nd December 2014
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Radiators now bled Matt?