Minimum usable size for a wc?

[bstw]

I'm converting what's left of our old kitchen into a utility and cloakroom and I'm limited for space. Has anyone got a really small WC that's still practical? If so what are the dimensions?

[V8RX7]

Unless you need something specialist around 400w x 600d

You can get corner types etc

What dims do you have / need ?

[DocJock]

We have one of these in a 1700x800 room.


http://www.diy.com/rooms/cooke-lewis-duetto-close-...

You could maybe knock 150 off that length at a push but you wouldn't want it narrower

[bstw]

I've got 1metre on one wall which also backs onto the soil stack, the other wall is variable but ideally as short as I can make it.

I'd looked at both corner and the combined wc's. Would either of them with on a 1mx1m room?

[mph1977]

biggest problem with very small 'smallest' rooms is the door swing arc and space to stand between the pan and the door swing , of course a sliding / folding or outward opening door can be used if the clearance is insufficient

[AB]

DocJock said:

We have one of these in a 1700x800 room.


http://www.diy.com/rooms/cooke-lewis-duetto-close-...

You could maybe knock 150 off that length at a push but you wouldn't want it narrower

That's brilliant.

[EggsBenedict]

mph1977 said:

biggest problem with very small 'smallest' rooms is the door swing arc and space to stand between the pan and the door swing , of course a sliding / folding or outward opening door can be used if the clearance is insufficient

And room required to get a proper broadsheet out. You, or your guests may be Telegraph readers.

[bstw]

mph1977 said:

biggest problem with very small 'smallest' rooms is the door swing arc and space to stand between the pan and the door swing , of course a sliding / folding or outward opening door can be used if the clearance is insufficient

I think I'm going to have to go with an outward
opening door in this case.

With the combined cistern/basin does the waste water from the basin fill the cistern?

[DocJock]

bstw said:

I've got 1metre on one wall which also backs onto the soil stack, the other wall is variable but ideally as short as I can make it.

I'd looked at both corner and the combined wc's. Would either of them with on a 1mx1m room?

No idea. If the door opened outwards you could do it.

This pic is in situ in 1700x800 but you could knock off 700 if the door opened outwards.

[Sheets Tabuer]

Sod the mrs

[GuinnessMK]

A portaloo is about 1000mm square internally, but has an outward opening door. I reckon that's about the minimum footprint you could comfortably use.

[Little Lofty]

I've just converted the back of a garage into a utility and downstairs cloakroom, the area for the loo and hand basin is 1400x850 inside sizes, I've used a RAK 600 series wc (600mm projection) and a 220x450 free standing vanity unit, the door opens out, I'd recommend you don't go much smaller as this is quite tight.

[bstw]

DocJock said:

No idea. If the door opened outwards you could do it.

This pic is in situ in 1700x800 but you could knock off 700 if the door opened outwards.

Thanks, thats really helpful. I think a metre squared with the door opening outwards on the left should work fine. Did you fit it yourself? the B&Q one gets some pretty bad reviews, it sounds like the internals aren't that well thought out.

I read twitter on my phone whilst using the loo, no broadsheets here. I tend to cr@p at work anyway :P

[DocJock]

bstw said:

Thanks, thats really helpful. I think a metre squared with the door opening outwards on the left should work fine. Did you fit it yourself? the B&Q one gets some pretty bad reviews, it sounds like the internals aren't that well thought out.

I read twitter on my phone whilst using the loo, no broadsheets here. I tend to cr@p at work anyway :P

Yep. really simple to fit. Quality is fine imo, you just need to lay the parts out and RTFM.

Two things to bear in mind. It is noisy during refill if you have high water pressure. The tap is cold water only as it share a feed with the cistern.

[JONSCZ]

This is another 'combined wc/basin' with an enclosed wc unit - not cheap, though!

http://www.victorianplumbing.co.uk/eco-bathrooms-5...

or in different colour - http://www.escapebathrooms.com/sites/default/files...

Edited by JONSCZ on Sunday 21st December 20:16

[smokey mow]

This is my en-suite cloakroom which I built in an alcove alongside a chimney breast. The internal dimensions are only 1.1m wide x 1.0m deep, but the chimney takes up 0.66m x 0.5 leaving a total floor area of only 0.77m2

[bstw]

smokey mow said:

This is my en-suite cloakroom which I built in an alcove alongside a chimney breast. The internal dimensions are only 1.1m wide x 1.0m deep, but the chimney takes up 0.66m x 0.5 leaving a total floor area of only 0.77m2

Thats a s small as you'd want to go! do you still have the sockets down by your ankles?

[smokey mow]

bstw said:

smokey mow said:

This is my en-suite cloakroom which I built in an alcove alongside a chimney breast. The internal dimensions are only 1.1m wide x 1.0m deep, but the chimney takes up 0.66m x 0.5 leaving a total floor area of only 0.77m2

Thats a s small as you'd want to go! do you still have the sockets down by your ankles?

One is a phone socket which I opted to leave, the other I changed to a razor socket to plug the charger into.

[AndrewEH1]

smokey mow said:

This is my en-suite cloakroom which I built in an alcove alongside a chimney breast. The internal dimensions are only 1.1m wide x 1.0m deep, but the chimney takes up 0.66m x 0.5 leaving a total floor area of only 0.77m2

I wouldn't want a bad case of the sts in your house! I hope you puts lots of sound proofing in!

[okie592]

AndrewEH1 said:

smokey mow said:

This is my en-suite cloakroom which I built in an alcove alongside a chimney breast. The internal dimensions are only 1.1m wide x 1.0m deep, but the chimney takes up 0.66m x 0.5 leaving a total floor area of only 0.77m2

I wouldn't want a bad case of the sts in your house! I hope you puts lots of sound proofing in!

How do you spread your legs wide enough to get a relaxing out out?

Couldn't you have a sliding door?