Chainsaws

[Renovation]

Timmy40 said:

As others have said, steel toe capped boots, chainsaw trousers, gloves and helmet are mandatory wear. Anyone saying otherwise is IMO a bellend.

I've hired three pros to remove large amounts of trees.

None wore chainsaw specific trousers, boots or gloves.

Youtube shows the majority on there don't either.

[BFG TERRANO]

Renovation said:

I've hired three pros to remove large amounts of trees.

None wore chainsaw specific trousers, boots or gloves.

Youtube shows the majority on there don't either.

They have probably never seen someone rushed to hospital with a red hot snapped chain embedded beneath their skin.

[Renovation]

BFG TERRANO said:

They have probably never seen someone rushed to hospital with a red hot snapped chain embedded beneath their skin.

I'm not saying it's right, safe or better - I'm just saying what I see.

[Tonsko]

Renovation said:

I've hired three pros to remove large amounts of trees.

None wore chainsaw specific trousers, boots or gloves.

Youtube shows the majority on there don't either.

Seems foolish in the extreme. It will happen to them before long, I imagine. Why not wear the gear? It's not about appearing more directorly is it? It's akin to driving round without a seatbelt - it's there, easy to use, and yet not using it.

[BFG TERRANO]

Renovation said:

I'm not saying it's right, safe or better - I'm just saying what I see.

Seen that sort of thing.... It's like anything.... Fine until something goes wrong.

[guindilias]

I've never seen a red hot chain, snapped or not - that's why you use chainsaw oil, to lubricate and cool the chain.
After I fell a tree the chain is generally cold enough to give it a touch-up with the file straight away? And even most old saws have "chain catchers" if the chain breaks.
No excuse for not using PPE, but you might be exaggerating a tad, d'ya not think?

BFG TERRANO said:

They have probably never seen someone rushed to hospital with a red hot snapped chain embedded beneath their skin.

[BFG TERRANO]

guindilias said:

No exaggeration. Old chain, worked to death so hot it went blue/purple. Slack old thing that let go.

[pork911]

Renovation said:

I've hired three pros to remove large amounts of trees.

None wore chainsaw specific trousers, boots or gloves.

Youtube shows the majority on there don't either.

hmmm define 'professionals'

[dickymint]

http://www.hse.gov.uk/treework/safety-topics/chain...

5 deaths in recent years........ I make that safer than using a ladder

[Tonsko]

... But 115 major injuries in the most recent year on that table, which is more pertinent, I think.

[Timmy40]

Renovation said:

Timmy40 said:

As others have said, steel toe capped boots, chainsaw trousers, gloves and helmet are mandatory wear. Anyone saying otherwise is IMO a bellend.

I've hired three pros to remove large amounts of trees.

None wore chainsaw specific trousers, boots or gloves.

Youtube shows the majority on there don't either.

My neighbours a tree surgeon, as is my BIL, both are fully qualified professionals, both have had friends who have died in tree surgery related accidents, both always wear all of the protective gear mentioned, even if it means sweating in chainsaw trousers in the middle of summer.

Turning up and taking money for cutting down a tree doesn't make someone a profesional.

[Perik Omo]

Our next door neighbour died when he cut through his leg when the chainsaw jumped unexpectedly. Death was caused by heart failure due to massive blood loss. I have now got the trousers, gloves and helmet, the cost of your life far outweighs the cost of the safety kit and it's just stupid not to use it.

[Lanby]

When you do decide to buy safety gear check what you're buying as there are products out there that look good value but have fake CE approval!

[Lanby]

When you do decide to buy safety gear check what you're buying as there are products out there that look good value but have fake CE approval!

[Timmy40]

Lanby said:

When you do decide to buy safety gear check what you're buying as there are products out there that look good value but have fake CE approval!

I have a cheap chainsaw, but all Stihl safety kit.

[guindilias]

I do think that was a stroke of Genius on the Chinese manufacturer's part, though - "Oh, that universally recognised CE symbol? No, not mean certificate of European Conformity, means "Chinese Export!"

[V8RX7]

Timmy40 said:

taking money for cutting down a tree doesn't make someone a professional.

Actually that's the definition:

"engaged in a specified activity as one's main paid occupation rather than as an amateur"

[Lanby]

guindilias said:

I do think that was a stroke of Genius on the Chinese manufacturer's part, though - "Oh, that universally recognised CE symbol? No, not mean certificate of European Conformity, means "Chinese Export!"

Chinese Export, brilliant. I've never heard that before and I import CE approved chainsaw safety gear!

[guindilias]

Aye, have a look on google about it - there is a VERY subtle difference between the symbols.
Reminds me of that joke I read (probably on here) where a western businessman approaches a Chinese manufacturer to have a widget made in bulk, and says "Can you do it?"
Chinese factory owner "Is it Patented?"
Westerner "No, why?"
Chinese factory owner "Ah, cannot do - no drawings!"

[treehack]

Timmy40 said:

I have a cheap chainsaw, but all Stihl safety kit.

Funny you should say that, we were in a saw shop yesterday looking at a pair of Stihl chainsaw trousers wondering why they were so cheap(£80). Looked durable bet felt very light, asked the guy in the shop and he said " there no good for you boys, wouldn't stop your saws, they are more for a home owner!!"
Now we don't use anything that anyone from here couldn't go and buy which we sort of thought was rather worrying