DIY/Trade Myths

[brianb]

There is often lots of great advice on here by fellow trade professionals, by the same token I do see a fair amount of utter nonsense

So how about a dispelling some of the myths, I'll start with my two favourites

1) Worcester boilers arnt that great think of them as the VW of the boiler world, expensive to fix with a bizarre following living off a past reputation

2) tile backers/tank boards ect,
Their not needed, you have one line of defence (your tiles & grout) if water is getting through them it will find a way out regardless of what's behind, either way tour tiles will be buggered

Fire away

[Paul Drawmer]

A combi boiler is not always the best answer.

[SlackBladder]

brianb said:

There is often lots of great advice on here by fellow trade professionals, by the same token I do see a fair amount of utter nonsense

So how about a dispelling some of the myths, I'll start with my two favourites

1) Worcester boilers arnt that great think of them as the VW of the boiler world, expensive to fix with a bizarre following living off a past reputation

2) tile backers/tank boards ect,
Their not needed, you have one line of defence (your tiles & grout) if water is getting through them it will find a way out regardless of what's behind, either way tour tiles will be buggered

Fire away

Grammar matters

[crossy67]

Hydrofuge plasterboard. Why use a product that allows the passage of humidity then tile it or paint with normal paint?

[Evoluzione]

brianb said:

2) tile backers/tank boards ect,
They're not needed, you have one line of defence (your tiles & grout) if water is getting through them it will find a way out regardless of what's behind, either way your tiles will be buggered

Fire away

Your tiles won't be buggered, the wall behind may suffer though...

People think 'Waterproof grout' means water can't get through it, this isn't the case. 'Waterproof' means it won't be broken down by water, but it does actually get soaked up and passes through it.
If you want impermeable try Epoxy grout, horrible stuff to work with though.

[Evoluzione]

That chipboard is no good for flooring: Utter rubbish.

[B17NNS]

Artex. You don't have to fear for your family's safety, call in a HazMat team and have every ceiling removed and re-boarded. A re-skim is just fine.

[jas xjr]

FENSA , lol

[B17NNS]

jas xjr said:

FENSA , lol

doesn't even warrant an explanation as to why that's a load of nonsense.

[hairyben]

brianb said:

There is often lots of great advice on here by fellow trade professionals, by the same token I do see a fair amount of utter nonsense

So how about a dispelling some of the myths, I'll start with my two favourites

1) Worcester boilers arnt that great think of them as the VW of the boiler world, expensive to fix with a bizarre following living off a past reputation

2) tile backers/tank boards ect,
Their not needed, you have one line of defence (your tiles & grout) if water is getting through them it will find a way out regardless of what's behind, either way tour tiles will be buggered

Fire away

Your point that waterproof tile backer is not needed like claiming that the brakes on your car are knackered, but it doesn't matter cos your driving is of a super high standard.

Tilebacker is a barrier, it'll give no-where for water to go. Plasterboard will suck more moisture through until it's saturated then collapse and lead to considerable repair work

[ShiningWit]

hairyben said:

brianb said:

There is often lots of great advice on here by fellow trade professionals, by the same token I do see a fair amount of utter nonsense

So how about a dispelling some of the myths, I'll start with my two favourites

1) Worcester boilers arnt that great think of them as the VW of the boiler world, expensive to fix with a bizarre following living off a past reputation

2) tile backers/tank boards ect,
Their not needed, you have one line of defence (your tiles & grout) if water is getting through them it will find a way out regardless of what's behind, either way tour tiles will be buggered

Fire away

Your point that waterproof tile backer is not needed like claiming that the brakes on your car are knackered, but it doesn't matter cos your driving is of a super high standard.

Tilebacker is a barrier, it'll give no-where for water to go. Plasterboard will suck more moisture through until it's saturated then collapse and lead to considerable repair work

Just a tiny little Woosh Parrot needed there perhaps...

[C Lee Farquar]

Evoluzione said:

That chipboard is no good for flooring: Utter rubbish.

That's an interesting one. I don't like chipboard, I don't like the feel underfoot. I appreciate this will usually be down to fitting but I'd rather pay extra and have floorboards.

[hairyben]

ShiningWit said:

hairyben said:

brianb said:

There is often lots of great advice on here by fellow trade professionals, by the same token I do see a fair amount of utter nonsense

So how about a dispelling some of the myths, I'll start with my two favourites

1) Worcester boilers arnt that great think of them as the VW of the boiler world, expensive to fix with a bizarre following living off a past reputation

2) tile backers/tank boards ect,
Their not needed, you have one line of defence (your tiles & grout) if water is getting through them it will find a way out regardless of what's behind, either way tour tiles will be buggered

Fire away

Your point that waterproof tile backer is not needed like claiming that the brakes on your car are knackered, but it doesn't matter cos your driving is of a super high standard.

Tilebacker is a barrier, it'll give no-where for water to go. Plasterboard will suck more moisture through until it's saturated then collapse and lead to considerable repair work

Just a tiny little Woosh Parrot needed there perhaps...

oh, I read it as meaning that the need for the often-recomended tile backer itself was rubbish/the myth. Is it that unclear or is it my sunday morning head?

[anonymous-user]

Paul Drawmer said:

A combi boiler is not always the best answer.

+1

I actually hate the things.

In my experience they tend to be more unreliable than system boilers, and when they do break down, you have tenants screaming blue murder and demanding a hotel room because they can't have a bath/shower or wash any dishes.

At least with a system boiler you can stick the immersion heater on and still have showers etc.

A few housebuilders we work with have actually gone back to systems in newbuilds.

[garycat]

Any DIY project involving expanding foam, will be simple, neat and successful.

[brianb]

SlackBladder said:

Grammar matters

3) people who's only comment on a thread is to criticise grammar

[sidicks]

anonymous said:

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Priceless!

[Mr GrimNasty]

PVA

[HootersGsy]

"It'll only take five minutes"

[g7jtk]

The customer is always right