Plaster vs Lining Paper
Discussion
poocherama said:
Not huge, I do however pay a massive postcode premium. Out of interest what would you charge to line a wall £/sq mt?
You dont need to know how much it is to paper, as your going to paint it. Do it properly and it will look brilliant, with no seems or bubbles or peeling corners. You mentioned about cracking, we've had a few small cracks appear in our newly plastered housr, but only on the s
tty Victorian hallow walls with weight above them ( they flex a little) but can easily be fixed now that they've settled. As said lineing paper is often used to hide poor walls, not newly plasted walls. Get some cheep emulsion paint , 40/60 with water to give a good base, then paint as usual. poocherama said:
Not huge, I do however pay a massive postcode premium. Out of interest what would you charge to line a wall £/sq mt?
Wall papering isn't my thing. I'll do a feature wall if I absolutely have to.I imagine a decent paper hanger could piss a room a day. £200 per day London prices? Materials are negligible. Do you have 50 rooms to do?
My mate can line a room in a couple of hours, he'd do three bedrooms in a day easily, that's hanging it horizontally with a slight gap between each piece, the gaps are filled and sanded so no joints are seen.
Don't use cheap emulsion, it just takes longer and you need more coats, its false economy. Go to a Dulux/Crown or Johnston's trade centre, tell them what your painting and they will advise you what to buy.
Don't use cheap emulsion, it just takes longer and you need more coats, its false economy. Go to a Dulux/Crown or Johnston's trade centre, tell them what your painting and they will advise you what to buy.
Lining paper on a m2 rate would be in the region of £3/m2. Add another 50p for ceilings. It's a big quantity though and indoor work in winter so I would be expecting discounts.
But as others have said, new plaster walls do not require lining. You just need to make sure the plasterers haven't 'polished' the plaster too much and created a glassy finish as paint can slide over these areas. Not a problem on patches, but on full walls it can be a pain to prepare as you'll need to give the lot a light sanding.
Apply a mist coat first as suggested, then you can have a better look at the walls and scrape / sand any snots and fill any wee holes or scrapes that appear. There should be very few on a good plastering job, but there will be some. Then apply 2 coats of quality paint in the colour of your choice.
It might show hairline cracks over time but this depends on lots of factors (heat, humidity, substrate, settlement etc) but it's nothing to worry about too much just fill and repaint.
But as others have said, new plaster walls do not require lining. You just need to make sure the plasterers haven't 'polished' the plaster too much and created a glassy finish as paint can slide over these areas. Not a problem on patches, but on full walls it can be a pain to prepare as you'll need to give the lot a light sanding.
Apply a mist coat first as suggested, then you can have a better look at the walls and scrape / sand any snots and fill any wee holes or scrapes that appear. There should be very few on a good plastering job, but there will be some. Then apply 2 coats of quality paint in the colour of your choice.
It might show hairline cracks over time but this depends on lots of factors (heat, humidity, substrate, settlement etc) but it's nothing to worry about too much just fill and repaint.
Little Lofty said:
My mate can line a room in a couple of hours, he'd do three bedrooms in a day easily, that's hanging it horizontally with a slight gap between each piece, the gaps are filled and sanded so no joints are seen.
Don't use cheap emulsion, it just takes longer and you need more coats, its false economy. Go to a Dulux/Crown or Johnston's trade centre, tell them what your painting and they will advise you what to buy.
Definitely get the good stuff for the finish coats. Saves tons of time in the long run and generally looks better for longer. Don't use cheap emulsion, it just takes longer and you need more coats, its false economy. Go to a Dulux/Crown or Johnston's trade centre, tell them what your painting and they will advise you what to buy.
I tried the No Nonsense Bare Plaster Paint and was really happy with it.
1 coat was decent, 2 was almost good enough for a finishing coat. Then done 2 coats of Dulux Diamond Matt and it was fine.
Probably work out more expensive than buying cheap emulsion and watering down, but saves fannying about.
1 coat was decent, 2 was almost good enough for a finishing coat. Then done 2 coats of Dulux Diamond Matt and it was fine.
Probably work out more expensive than buying cheap emulsion and watering down, but saves fannying about.
Slagathore said:
I tried the No Nonsense Bare Plaster Paint and was really happy with it.
Their stuff is very good. I used some of their pre-mix plaster to fill any imperfections from when I skimmed my walls at home. And if you're gluing coving and skirting boards their adhesives are cheap and strong too.
As others have said your contractor is absolutely taking the Michael with prices like that. Given that I'd be reviewing all of his other costs right now, and quite possibly kicking him out now and getting someone else to finish off at 10% of the cost. Sounds like even cleaning up after him will save you 5k.
I just had living room hallway and a bathroom repainted with lining paper used in the living room, and it cost me about £1250 and that's because there was a lot of woodwork that needed sanding down before reprinting and my postcode is central london.
Absolutely echo what someone above said about paint, always used to use dulux but this time paid a little more and got farrow and ball and the difference is quite amazing. Even the builder remarked in how much was left and what good paint it was.
I just had living room hallway and a bathroom repainted with lining paper used in the living room, and it cost me about £1250 and that's because there was a lot of woodwork that needed sanding down before reprinting and my postcode is central london.
Absolutely echo what someone above said about paint, always used to use dulux but this time paid a little more and got farrow and ball and the difference is quite amazing. Even the builder remarked in how much was left and what good paint it was.
wolfracesonic said:
Update?
OP was last seen sitting on the floor in a dark and cold freshly plastered room, gently rocking backwards and forwards. A solitary tear on his left cheek. Cause unknown but it's rumoured that shortly before, his builder had provided an estimate for putting up a bathroom blind.B17NNS said:
wolfracesonic said:
Update?
OP was last seen sitting on the floor in a dark and cold freshly plastered room, gently rocking backwards and forwards. A solitary tear on his left cheek. Cause unknown but it's rumoured that shortly before, his builder had provided an estimate for putting up a bathroom blind.
Would love to know what type of house it is. Probably the first and last time I'll here the words 'lining paper' and '10k' in the same sentence.
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