Rural Broadband
Discussion
W12GT said:
I wouldn't pin your hopes on 4G. I am moving to a little village in a couple of weeks and have even told that only Orange works. So I've changed to EE which runs orange tmobile etc. I went to there this weekend and guess what - no reception at all - not on the phone, not on 4G or 3G. The only way to know is to go and try for yourself.
Oh and the broadband is believed to be about 2Mb/s. I can't wait to move but I am dreading how out of touch I will feel living there.
Have a look at a mast map - one issue with Orange & T-Mobile is as they merged they closed sites where there was duplication. There might have been orange on one side of the village and T Mobile on the other. If you're on the side that closed you'd likely be stuffed. This happened to my Mum. It's also possible that it's down - they can be very slow to be fixed. http://sitefinder.ofcom.org.uk/searchOh and the broadband is believed to be about 2Mb/s. I can't wait to move but I am dreading how out of touch I will feel living there.
CheesyFootballs said:
Rural Notts here, but only about 8 miles from the city.
Best I get is 0.5 - 0.75mb, no 4G, no 3G and only really Vodafone has any decent reception.
I've been told it's highly unlikely we'll get any decent broadband to the village (fibre optic?) as not enough people to warrant the cost.
I have to avoid the pages on here where people post hi-res images...
I'm in the north west Highlands, a village of 100 people. We get 6.5 mb at the moment but are just being connected to fibre. Expect to get 100mb+ later this year.Best I get is 0.5 - 0.75mb, no 4G, no 3G and only really Vodafone has any decent reception.
I've been told it's highly unlikely we'll get any decent broadband to the village (fibre optic?) as not enough people to warrant the cost.
I have to avoid the pages on here where people post hi-res images...
Deepest rural Lincs. Most of the village has 1.5Mb, I seem to have given the right engineer the right biscuits, as I get 6.5 on the cabinet at the other end of the village. The other half of the village got knocked out for two days because somebody "preparing for FTTC" had knocked a switch. Will believe that when I see it.
We are, because we are rural, getting a Gubbermint mast, and having spoken to Vodafone, they are putting 4G cell kit on it, which is nice. Just occasionally, its nice to be in the middle of nowhere
We are, because we are rural, getting a Gubbermint mast, and having spoken to Vodafone, they are putting 4G cell kit on it, which is nice. Just occasionally, its nice to be in the middle of nowhere
GetCarter said:
CheesyFootballs said:
Rural Notts here, but only about 8 miles from the city.
Best I get is 0.5 - 0.75mb, no 4G, no 3G and only really Vodafone has any decent reception.
I've been told it's highly unlikely we'll get any decent broadband to the village (fibre optic?) as not enough people to warrant the cost.
I have to avoid the pages on here where people post hi-res images...
I'm in the north west Highlands, a village of 100 people. We get 6.5 mb at the moment but are just being connected to fibre. Expect to get 100mb+ later this year.Best I get is 0.5 - 0.75mb, no 4G, no 3G and only really Vodafone has any decent reception.
I've been told it's highly unlikely we'll get any decent broadband to the village (fibre optic?) as not enough people to warrant the cost.
I have to avoid the pages on here where people post hi-res images...
Ah, Scotchland you see - that's the British Government helping you out so's you don't bugger off
My village is probably the same size (no pub, no shop but a very very old church).
ARH said:
Rural Shropshire 2mb here, used to have virgin 100mb. So big drop in speed. I live 3 miles from the exchange which is upgrading now to fibre, so we may get it. The worst bit is the old infrastructure, it often fails. trees pulling lines down or just very old connections. It took 2 weeks to sort out my last problem with the line. Our cabinet serves about 20 houses and there is an engineer in it at least once a week. As for streaming forget it at any kind of resolution you would want to watch. You can download stuff if you plan though. To be honest day day internet use is ok though and I manage most stuff I need to do.
If you're in South Shropshire it would be worth speaking to Airband... they are giving me 40Mbps symmentric and <10ms latency on a 5GHz Wifi link. As Wenlock exchange has just been FTTC enabled I'm now getting 15Mbps on the downstream for my backup connection.Its not always that bad in the sticks if you can find alternative service providers or there are communinity driven projects.
I live in London and enjoy Virgin's finest.
Often visit the BIL in Norfolk and although he's a techie by trade and is one of the most connected people I know his village has sod-all broadband.
I think he must just download stuff when he's away during the week because when we rock up it's carnage.
You end up in a huge queue to download stuff.
For example I wanted to download a film for one of the kids' iPads for the way home.
He said don't bother his teenagers had already teed up several hours of downloads.
It must involve a lot of planning.
Often visit the BIL in Norfolk and although he's a techie by trade and is one of the most connected people I know his village has sod-all broadband.
I think he must just download stuff when he's away during the week because when we rock up it's carnage.
You end up in a huge queue to download stuff.
For example I wanted to download a film for one of the kids' iPads for the way home.
He said don't bother his teenagers had already teed up several hours of downloads.
It must involve a lot of planning.
I'm in Northern Yorkshire, out in thew sticks and get a steady 7mb.
Last month Outreach fitted a cabinet on the roadside about 20m from my front door and last week an engineer stuck a 'Fast as f
k Fibre is here' sticker on the front of it. Now I can have 77-80mb, all day long, no problem at all.... but do I want it ? do I need it ?
Netflix, Quobuz, the internet in general all work fine, what advantages are there to having broadband that's ten times as quick ?
I don't mind paying but is it going to be 10 times as good ?
Last month Outreach fitted a cabinet on the roadside about 20m from my front door and last week an engineer stuck a 'Fast as f
k Fibre is here' sticker on the front of it. Now I can have 77-80mb, all day long, no problem at all.... but do I want it ? do I need it ?Netflix, Quobuz, the internet in general all work fine, what advantages are there to having broadband that's ten times as quick ?
I don't mind paying but is it going to be 10 times as good ?
E36GUY said:
I don't know of any providers names as such so Google probably best but you can get Satellite Broadband in the sticks. It's more expensive but if you want fast speeds then that's your choice. Before our village was connected to fibre we had 1/2 meg and my neighbour got a satellite system installed and went to over 70. Think it cost him about £50/month. I'd pay that frankly were I to move somewhere with bad speeds having got used to BT infinity.
Is satellite Broadband that quick now? I had it at my last house and max possible speed was 2 meg.I'm in rural... Gateshead. 3mbps max here, and that's on the days it works - 140kbps is not uncommon. Sometimes the Littlewoods underwear section has to do 
Seriously though, everything is pretty much out of bounds. Online games, Netflix, watching Youtube is patchy at best, basically any kind of streaming is off limits. I have a PS4 and it's my worst nightmare when I start a game to find I must install a patch in order to play it. The last one took three days to download.
Seriously though, everything is pretty much out of bounds. Online games, Netflix, watching Youtube is patchy at best, basically any kind of streaming is off limits. I have a PS4 and it's my worst nightmare when I start a game to find I must install a patch in order to play it. The last one took three days to download.
Edited by Mercury00 on Wednesday 28th January 20:19
Milton Keynes with just 80Mb fibre because the 300mb offering was too much. If anyone with a nice house in the Cotswolds or a decent village in Oxfordshire would like to swap houses I'd be willing to listen to offers.
Joking aside, if you're rural you're screwed. There's no scale thus no value in expanding fixed line infrastructure to every corner of the country. That sort of service is what is crippling Royal Mail. Plus, it won't be long before there is long reach wireless (5G or later) that offers the same but everywhere you go. At that point any heavy investment in you rural folk goes completely down the pan.
Joking aside, if you're rural you're screwed. There's no scale thus no value in expanding fixed line infrastructure to every corner of the country. That sort of service is what is crippling Royal Mail. Plus, it won't be long before there is long reach wireless (5G or later) that offers the same but everywhere you go. At that point any heavy investment in you rural folk goes completely down the pan.
Agree with the above poster.
Here in rural East Lothian there are no pavements, sewage, street lights, 2g, 3g, 4g etc so there will never be infinity or virgin media etc.
Fortunately we get ~6meg download which copes with just about any streaming etc.
As some in the area get far worse speeds the community has organised this http://lothianbroadband.coop/ starting in a few months
Cheers
Here in rural East Lothian there are no pavements, sewage, street lights, 2g, 3g, 4g etc so there will never be infinity or virgin media etc.
Fortunately we get ~6meg download which copes with just about any streaming etc.
As some in the area get far worse speeds the community has organised this http://lothianbroadband.coop/ starting in a few months
Cheers
JohneeBoy said:
if you're rural you're screwed. There's no scale thus no value in expanding fixed line infrastructure to every corner of the country.
As mentioned earlier, I live about as remote as it gets in mainland UK (the nearest town is 65 miles away - I'm in Wester Ross, which is the size or Warwickshire and has a population of only 6000).... and they just finished laying cable here.GetCarter said:
As mentioned earlier, I live about as remote as it gets in mainland UK (the nearest town is 65 miles away - I'm in Wester Ross, which is the size or Warwickshire and has a population of only 6000).... and they just finished laying cable here.
Population 6000, well it is worth their while then... In my area there are 239 households which is why BT, VM etc will never serve us with a decent service...Edited by Sleepers on Thursday 29th January 08:54
Sleepers said:
GetCarter said:
As mentioned earlier, I live about as remote as it gets in mainland UK (the nearest town is 65 miles away - I'm in Wester Ross, which is the size or Warwickshire and has a population of only 6000).... and they just finished laying cable here.
Population 6000, well it is worth their while then... In my area there are 239 households which is why BT, VM etc will never serve us with a decent service...Edited by Sleepers on Thursday 29th January 08:54
ETA... to give you an idea. Photo from above
Edited by GetCarter on Thursday 29th January 09:22
GetCarter said:
No... the population of 6000 is for the entirety of Wester Ross (same size as Warwickshire). In my postcode there are 2 residencies. Wester Ross and Sutherland have to lowest density of population in the UK. IIRC it's one and a bit per square mile. The nearest village to me has a population of just over 100 people.
ETA... to give you an idea. Photo from above
You are very fortunate then as our 236 households are spread out over a vast area too ETA... to give you an idea. Photo from above
Edited by GetCarter on Thursday 29th January 09:22
GetCarter said:
No... the population of 6000 is for the entirety of Wester Ross (same size as Warwickshire). In my postcode there are 2 residencies. Wester Ross and Sutherland have to lowest density of population in the UK. IIRC it's one and a bit per square mile. The nearest village to me has a population of just over 100 people.
ETA... to give you an idea. Photo from above
My inlaws are just around the corner from you in Invershin. ETA... to give you an idea. Photo from above
Edited by GetCarter on Thursday 29th January 09:22
And they still get fast broadband than I do in the South East…
loughran said:
I'm in Northern Yorkshire, out in thew sticks and get a steady 7mb.
Last month Outreach fitted a cabinet on the roadside about 20m from my front door and last week an engineer stuck a 'Fast as fk Fibre is here' sticker on the front of it. Now I can have 77-80mb, all day long, no problem at all.... but do I want it ? do I need it ?
Netflix, Quobuz, the internet in general all work fine, what advantages are there to having broadband that's ten times as quick ?
I don't mind paying but is it going to be 10 times as good ?
Most of North Yorks is on fibre now. It was a local govt. initiative to get N. Yorks. connected up early. The idea was to get more people like me (work in the IT industry, was based in Reading) to move up here.Last month Outreach fitted a cabinet on the roadside about 20m from my front door and last week an engineer stuck a 'Fast as f
k Fibre is here' sticker on the front of it. Now I can have 77-80mb, all day long, no problem at all.... but do I want it ? do I need it ?Netflix, Quobuz, the internet in general all work fine, what advantages are there to having broadband that's ten times as quick ?
I don't mind paying but is it going to be 10 times as good ?
We get 80Mb which means I can use an IP phone and download work documents, wife can Skype her mum and daughter can stream TV simultaneously with no drop in quality for any of us. Agreed though, most don't really need any more than 10Mb at the moment but it's meant I can live close to where I grew up and still work 'in' the SE.
Cheib said:
Currently live in London and enjoy Virgin's 60 MB broadband......we're moving out to the sticks this summer. Just been doing a bit of research on a village we have seen a house in that we like....it's got 2MB Broadband (they are campaigning to try and get faster broadband). Am I going to kill myself?!?!?
Most worried about things like streaming films on something like Apple TV. Guessing that is totally out of the question ? Even downloading an App for my phone could take friggin ages ?!?!
Hilarious, truly hilarious. Most worried about things like streaming films on something like Apple TV. Guessing that is totally out of the question ? Even downloading an App for my phone could take friggin ages ?!?!
Are you going to moan about rural pastimes, and how quiet it is too?
CheesyFootballs said:
GetCarter said:
CheesyFootballs said:
Rural Notts here, but only about 8 miles from the city.
Best I get is 0.5 - 0.75mb, no 4G, no 3G and only really Vodafone has any decent reception.
I've been told it's highly unlikely we'll get any decent broadband to the village (fibre optic?) as not enough people to warrant the cost.
I have to avoid the pages on here where people post hi-res images...
I'm in the north west Highlands, a village of 100 people. We get 6.5 mb at the moment but are just being connected to fibre. Expect to get 100mb+ later this year.Best I get is 0.5 - 0.75mb, no 4G, no 3G and only really Vodafone has any decent reception.
I've been told it's highly unlikely we'll get any decent broadband to the village (fibre optic?) as not enough people to warrant the cost.
I have to avoid the pages on here where people post hi-res images...
Ah, Scotchland you see - that's the British Government helping you out so's you don't bugger off
My village is probably the same size (no pub, no shop but a very very old church).
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