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anonymous said:
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A good kitchen fitter will make a nicer job of installing than a normal builders carpenter.
( I am of course biased as that is what we do!)
Edited by Neil - YVM on Monday 1st June 12:01
Neil - YVM said:
anonymous said:
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A good kitchen fitter will make a nicer job of installing that a normal builders carpenter.
( I am of course biased as that is what we do!)
Yeah, the builder has no idea.
You get metal trays that sit between the joists with an indent for the pipe to run, so the pipe can run parallel with the joists. You then need to notch the joists at the ends to allow the pipe to cross over (or in this case through) the joist and then down between the joists again and so on.
You get metal trays that sit between the joists with an indent for the pipe to run, so the pipe can run parallel with the joists. You then need to notch the joists at the ends to allow the pipe to cross over (or in this case through) the joist and then down between the joists again and so on.
Gingerbread Man said:
You get metal trays that sit between the joists with an indent for the pipe to run, so the pipe can run parallel with the joists. You then need to notch the joists at the ends to allow the pipe to cross over (or in this case through) the joist and then down between the joists again and so on.
Don't notch go through the centre of the joist. If you notch you're likely to lose more than a third of the joist strength, go through the centre of the joist and you'll likely lose less than 5% of the strength.TA14 said:
Gingerbread Man said:
You get metal trays that sit between the joists with an indent for the pipe to run, so the pipe can run parallel with the joists. You then need to notch the joists at the ends to allow the pipe to cross over (or in this case through) the joist and then down between the joists again and so on.
Don't notch go through the centre of the joist. If you notch you're likely to lose more than a third of the joist strength, go through the centre of the joist and you'll likely lose less than 5% of the strength.Gingerbread Man said:
Yeah, the builder has no idea.
You get metal trays that sit between the joists with an indent for the pipe to run, so the pipe can run parallel with the joists. You then need to notch the joists at the ends to allow the pipe to cross over (or in this case through) the joist and then down between the joists again and so on.
What he said. You don't screed over, simply lay 18mm OSB or similar over the top.You get metal trays that sit between the joists with an indent for the pipe to run, so the pipe can run parallel with the joists. You then need to notch the joists at the ends to allow the pipe to cross over (or in this case through) the joist and then down between the joists again and so on.
TA14 said:
OK, if you are going to notch then, yes, neat notches near to the end of the span is the way to go.
I started with a new company a few years back and had their apprentice turn up midday to aid me on a job. I needed a 22mm pipe taken through a few joosts. I showed him where, offered him a hand saw, chisel and hammer. Don't worry he proclaims, I've got my tools in the van. I go back into the other room to carry on piping a boiler, when he comes in to say that he's done, I go to inspect to find he had cut the notches full depth with a circular saw and about 50mm wide. My jaw nearly collapsed the joists when it hit the floor.
Polypipe also do a wet system that can be overlaid over the existing flooring. Obviously raises the floor level by approx 20mm.
Edit to add link
http://www.polypipe.com/building-products/plumbing...
Edit to add link
http://www.polypipe.com/building-products/plumbing...
anonymous said:
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Depends on the range of shuecco kit- its pricey but good. http://atlasroofsolutions.co.uk/ would be a UK alternative to the lantern roof- similar to the ultraframe offering but a bit cheaper- both very very good- mid to high quality.
happen to know that they are a sister company to http://www.bifoldshop.co.uk/lantern-roofs/overview... and you can probably generate a healthy discount getting both from them!
as the local supplier for our build.)anonymous said:
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Did quite a few Schuco windows a couple of years ago for a job and yes, it's a good system but expensive. Only advice I would give is get a few quotes from their approved installers / suppliers list (many firms will travel quite a way depending on the size of the job) but just as important is the quality of the fitters. I would insist on directly employed labour, the suppliers subcontract labour on our job who were a nightmare and we had to pump them off site. Next lot were directly employed and the difference in fit and finish quality was night and day. I'm not so sure that Schuco is worth the additional cost compared to say, Kawneer or Velfac or Aluk or any of the other dozens of manufacturers. I'm also sure that someone with more expertise could point out the same (or very similar) extrusion is used by XYZ for 70% of the cost. As with most things, you do pay extra for the Schuco name.
We have just had our windows done - Storm 2 from Evolution - http://www.evolutionwindows.com/storm-2/introducin... - uPVC, but described as "timber alternative' - very nice quality, & ours are cream outside, white in.
Literally only just finished (Friday!) but we are very happy with them. The fitters were a father & son team, and were great - they have worked with all sorts over the years but really liked the Storm 2 - said the frames were so much more solid than many.
We went with the 'dummy' frames so the 'triple' panels all look equal: as you say, a small loss in light, but they look the bee's knees!
Literally only just finished (Friday!) but we are very happy with them. The fitters were a father & son team, and were great - they have worked with all sorts over the years but really liked the Storm 2 - said the frames were so much more solid than many.
We went with the 'dummy' frames so the 'triple' panels all look equal: as you say, a small loss in light, but they look the bee's knees!
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