Electrics query
Discussion
I am doing soem rennovation work and have bashed away some walls which have plug sockets on them.
Many of the sockets have taken severe damage and are broken - not a problem as they are being replaced and need to be chucked away anyway.
One socket though has totally broken off and the red (old colur) wire is just hanging loose.
In order to make it safe I suppsoe I could just buy another socket.
My understanding is that it is a circuit and the switch of the socket breaks the circuit. Am I right in thinking that
a) if left as it is the circuit may break and other plugs wont work?
b) can I use something like a juction box to repair the break but not necessarily be bothered about having a plug?
I am guessing a junction box is maybe a bit cheaper than a plug socket but more important it will be a bit more robust in the short term.
Do you just conenct all the wires to the same block in the junction box?
Many of the sockets have taken severe damage and are broken - not a problem as they are being replaced and need to be chucked away anyway.
One socket though has totally broken off and the red (old colur) wire is just hanging loose.
In order to make it safe I suppsoe I could just buy another socket.
My understanding is that it is a circuit and the switch of the socket breaks the circuit. Am I right in thinking that
a) if left as it is the circuit may break and other plugs wont work?
b) can I use something like a juction box to repair the break but not necessarily be bothered about having a plug?
I am guessing a junction box is maybe a bit cheaper than a plug socket but more important it will be a bit more robust in the short term.
Do you just conenct all the wires to the same block in the junction box?
Mojooo said:
I am doing soem rennovation work and have bashed away some walls which have plug sockets on them.
Many of the sockets have taken severe damage and are broken - not a problem as they are being replaced and need to be chucked away anyway.
One socket though has totally broken off and the red (old colur) wire is just hanging loose.
In order to make it safe I suppsoe I could just buy another socket.
My understanding is that it is a circuit and the switch of the socket breaks the circuit. Am I right in thinking that
a) if left as it is the circuit may break and other plugs wont work?
b) can I use something like a juction box to repair the break but not necessarily be bothered about having a plug?
I am guessing a junction box is maybe a bit cheaper than a plug socket but more important it will be a bit more robust in the short term.
Do you just conenct all the wires to the same block in the junction box?
DO NOT TOUCH THE RED WIRE until you have turned the power off at the consumer unit-fuse box as the cable will possibly still be live, the switch as you put it only turns off the outlet and not the wire feeding itMany of the sockets have taken severe damage and are broken - not a problem as they are being replaced and need to be chucked away anyway.
One socket though has totally broken off and the red (old colur) wire is just hanging loose.
In order to make it safe I suppsoe I could just buy another socket.
My understanding is that it is a circuit and the switch of the socket breaks the circuit. Am I right in thinking that
a) if left as it is the circuit may break and other plugs wont work?
b) can I use something like a juction box to repair the break but not necessarily be bothered about having a plug?
I am guessing a junction box is maybe a bit cheaper than a plug socket but more important it will be a bit more robust in the short term.
Do you just conenct all the wires to the same block in the junction box?
A) other sockets will still work but if this is on a ring main you risk overloading the circuit as well as a potentially dangerous socket.
B) could be jointed through but sockets are that cheap it may be easier and safer to replace it rather than trying to fit a joint box/joint.
Having said that I may just repalce all 4 sockets as others are damaged but not to the same extent and it will work out cheaper to get junction boxes - as I say no need for them to be working sockets as the elctrics will be repalced later.
So just get a junction box and connected all wires of the same colour to each terminal so they are effectivley a joint cable?
So just get a junction box and connected all wires of the same colour to each terminal so they are effectivley a joint cable?
I would strongly recommend that you get someone who knows what they are doing to do the work, someone with qualifications.
However, unless something very odd is going on you could just do this:
1. Turn off the supply at your consumer unit
2. Test all the wires you are going to join to see if they are live.
3. If they're dead, join red to red, black to black and g/y to g/y inside a 30Amp junction box.
However, unless something very odd is going on you could just do this:
1. Turn off the supply at your consumer unit
2. Test all the wires you are going to join to see if they are live.
3. If they're dead, join red to red, black to black and g/y to g/y inside a 30Amp junction box.
no offence, but you sound like an accident waiting to happen......... you should of got the electrics isolated on the wall if you are demolishing it to the extent you have sockets hanging free.Gassing Station | Homes, Gardens and DIY | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff