Woodstove, I want BIG, installer says I'll melt, thoughts?

Woodstove, I want BIG, installer says I'll melt, thoughts?

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forest07

669 posts

205 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Eleven said:
Simpo Two said:
It would be ironic if they couldn't deliver your pocket nuclear reactor because there was too much snow nuts
I still cannot read this thread and not think of Chernobyl.
I've had 35 years in the heating industry and this just shouts waste of money both on the appliance & running costs!

herewego

8,814 posts

213 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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forest07 said:
Eleven said:
Simpo Two said:
It would be ironic if they couldn't deliver your pocket nuclear reactor because there was too much snow nuts
I still cannot read this thread and not think of Chernobyl.
I've had 35 years in the heating industry and this just shouts waste of money both on the appliance & running costs!
Not to mention the forest.

ukwill

8,911 posts

207 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Simpo Two said:
...pocket nuclear reactor...
hehe

cheddar

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4,637 posts

174 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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forest07 said:
I've had 35 years in the heating industry and this just shouts waste of money both on the appliance & running costs!
I know it looks that way forest but spend a cold week in Winter in my house and you might understand my reasons.

If I leave my 8kw heatpump on all night set at 20 degrees with fan on medium then I might see morning temps of 10 to 12 degrees in the living room and the bathroom/toilet/hallway are around 2 degrees. My electricity costs in winter have been £250 a month and this is in a single occupancy house of 100sqm.

Off to chop more wood........

Simpo Two

85,450 posts

265 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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To be fair I think there may be some kind of inverse square law going on as well (as with light). So you can double the power and only see 1/8 change... or something like that.

Sadly by the time you get this behemoth ready to roll it will be Spring, so we'll have to wait until next winter to see how you get on!

cheddar

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4,637 posts

174 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Simpo Two said:
Sadly by the time you get this behemoth ready to roll it will be Spring, so we'll have to wait until next winter to see how you get on!
It's Autumn here Simpo so I'll report soon enough.

Simpo Two

85,450 posts

265 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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NZ! You lucky lucky bd... and your Forest:Person ratio is rather better than the craphole you came from wink

cheddar

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4,637 posts

174 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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Simpo Two said:
NZ! You lucky lucky bd... and your Forest:Person ratio is rather better than the craphole you came from wink
Mmmm, the forest/person ration isn't quite as good as you might think Simpo, over the last 800 years we've either felled or burnt 75% of our trees.

Last years big storm bought down over a million trees local to me, so firewood is now free as long as you're willing to do the graft, otherwise it's £50 a cubic metre.

This one came down in my neighours garden, just missing his insured garage, insured house and insured outbuilding but nailing his uninsured car:


mosstrooper

317 posts

231 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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cheddar said:
Mmmm, the forest/person ration isn't quite as good as you might think Simpo, over the last 800 years we've either felled or burnt 75% of our trees.

Last years big storm bought down over a million trees local to me, so firewood is now free as long as you're willing to do the graft, otherwise it's £50 a cubic metre.

This one came down in my neighours garden, just missing his insured garage, insured house and insured outbuilding but nailing his uninsured car:

Eucalyptus camaldulensis ?

Simpo Two

85,450 posts

265 months

Friday 6th March 2015
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I'm amazed the car has crushed so much - the tree doesn't look that big...


NB I found that well seasoned (ie half rotten but dry and light) eucalyptus makes very good kindling.

wolfracesonic

7,002 posts

127 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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OP, when the beasts up and running, can you measure the temperature at say 10ft away when it's running flat out: I'm sure I'm not the only one who's curious to see what it's capable of.

Pwig

11,956 posts

270 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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My Dads suggestion was excellent. Chop a tree down and just put the end in the woodburner. Then just keep nudging it up when it burns off hehe

cheddar

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4,637 posts

174 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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wolfracesonic said:
OP, when the beasts up and running, can you measure the temperature at say 10ft away when it's running flat out: I'm sure I'm not the only one who's curious to see what it's capable of.
Yes, the infrared thermometer gun thing has arrived and I'll take indoor readings from my weather station. A flue thermometer is being sent in two days along with the stove top fan smile






J4CKO

41,567 posts

200 months

Saturday 7th March 2015
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We went for a 5kw and it does the job, it can get pretty warm but in hindsight I wish we had gone 1 or 2 kw more, not another 19 !

I reckon you will be sat there and smell cooking pork and realise it is your legs.


My thinking that with log burners, you can sort of control the heat but they have a fairly narrow operating range, I dont think you can operate a 24 kw stove at any point between 1 and 24 kw, it needs to be going at a certain rate to keep going, sort of like a plane needs a certain forward speed so it doesnt stall.

Best of luck with it, look forward to hear your findings, pity the weather has warmed up !

Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,122 posts

165 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Tuna said:
singlecoil said:
So, how well does it run at lower outputs?
OK. The door tars up very quickly
If your glass is tarring up, then so is your chimney. It's not a good idea to make a habit of running your stove in such a way that the glass goes brown. If that's happening you need to open the vents and let more air in, and should probably give it more fuel so it runs hotter as well.

AndyTR

517 posts

124 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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We're putting in a 5kw Stovax as part of a renovation, we're putting double doors onto the hall and a bi-fold through the the kitchen / family room so the heat should flow through the house quite nicely in winter. I'm usually a summer lover, but I cannot wait until next winter!


ukwill

8,911 posts

207 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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mosstrooper said:
cheddar said:
Mmmm, the forest/person ration isn't quite as good as you might think Simpo, over the last 800 years we've either felled or burnt 75% of our trees.

Last years big storm bought down over a million trees local to me, so firewood is now free as long as you're willing to do the graft, otherwise it's £50 a cubic metre.

This one came down in my neighours garden, just missing his insured garage, insured house and insured outbuilding but nailing his uninsured car:

Eucalyptus camaldulensis ?
No, I think it's an Audi.

ukwill

8,911 posts

207 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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mosstrooper said:
cheddar said:
Mmmm, the forest/person ration isn't quite as good as you might think Simpo, over the last 800 years we've either felled or burnt 75% of our trees.

Last years big storm bought down over a million trees local to me, so firewood is now free as long as you're willing to do the graft, otherwise it's £50 a cubic metre.

This one came down in my neighours garden, just missing his insured garage, insured house and insured outbuilding but nailing his uninsured car:

Eucalyptus camaldulensis ?
No, I think it's an Audi.

Tuna

19,930 posts

284 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Tuna said:
singlecoil said:
So, how well does it run at lower outputs?
OK. The door tars up very quickly
If your glass is tarring up, then so is your chimney. It's not a good idea to make a habit of running your stove in such a way that the glass goes brown. If that's happening you need to open the vents and let more air in, and should probably give it more fuel so it runs hotter as well.
No, we don't run it like that - what I was trying to say is that if you run it at 30%, it's hard work and doesn't burn clean. At 60%+ it burns really nicely and it's easy to keep going. I don't think the OP will have much fun running his on 'low power'.

silversurfer1

919 posts

136 months

Sunday 8th March 2015
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AndyTR said:
We're putting in a 5kw Stovax as part of a renovation, we're putting double doors onto the hall and a bi-fold through the the kitchen / family room so the heat should flow through the house quite nicely in winter. I'm usually a summer lover, but I cannot wait until next winter!

We have that exact stove, you wont be disappointed fantastic bit of kit

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