Woodstove, I want BIG, installer says I'll melt, thoughts?
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if it was not for lethargy, I would have started this thread myself today..
My room is 5m square with a 7 foot high ceiling. The calculations say 4Kw, I said 8 and the installer said 5 max or you will melt. The room has three open sides and no insulation above or in the walls. It has been freezing over the last months.
Now it is working I am thinking that a 10 would have been better because:
1. like you, I wanted to heat more than the room
2. I don't believe the installers and they are scared of selling someone a burner who sits with the door shut and they roast
3. my room is only just warm,24 degrees, not as warm as the open fire though I am getting benefits..
The upstairs doors are all left open and the heat is rising, I am getting away with no central heating and upstairs is at about 18 degrees. Based on this then maybe your massive one will be ok. Be prepared for some serious heat though, it sounds a monster.
The moral of the story is that 'professionals' have one agenda and you have to live with your expense. Any smaller for me and I would have wasted my money.
My room is 5m square with a 7 foot high ceiling. The calculations say 4Kw, I said 8 and the installer said 5 max or you will melt. The room has three open sides and no insulation above or in the walls. It has been freezing over the last months.
Now it is working I am thinking that a 10 would have been better because:
1. like you, I wanted to heat more than the room
2. I don't believe the installers and they are scared of selling someone a burner who sits with the door shut and they roast
3. my room is only just warm,24 degrees, not as warm as the open fire though I am getting benefits..
The upstairs doors are all left open and the heat is rising, I am getting away with no central heating and upstairs is at about 18 degrees. Based on this then maybe your massive one will be ok. Be prepared for some serious heat though, it sounds a monster.
The moral of the story is that 'professionals' have one agenda and you have to live with your expense. Any smaller for me and I would have wasted my money.
frank hovis said:
defblade said:
When dogs get really warm, they expand and eventually become lighter than air. This example is a Chihuahua who slept for about half a hour too long. It can take days for them to contract back to normal, and in the meantime they must be floated on a lead for all walks or they may keep rising, never to be seen again. Owners are advised to also carry an umbrella on these walks, as the dog may not take note of what's below when it does the inevitable.
That can happen but in this case it was a joke that caused this effect. "I met a man with a wooden leg called Smith""What was his other leg called?"
Baldinho said:
frank hovis said:
This my woodburner with obligatory hairy beast in front of it
It's a 6kw multi fuel in a room that approx 6m x4.5m
Even with doors open to the kitchen and un heated hallway it's so warm we sit in t shirts
A 24k is mental ! And would go through horrendous amounts of wood per hour
First off, is this 26kW the nominal or max rating?
I have a 27,5kW Deville wood stove that heats the centre section of our farmhouse. Its in a 60 sq m lounge with hot air feeds to a 60 sq m master bedroom above which has open cieling over 5m high. Total heated volume must be around 450+ cubic metres. Full output will heat it all quite quickly and then the thermostat keeps it at 20° downstairs ans 18° upstairs at fairly low output, probably around 10kW.
This is a very old farmhouse with 60cm thick walls and minimal insulation.
I have a 27,5kW Deville wood stove that heats the centre section of our farmhouse. Its in a 60 sq m lounge with hot air feeds to a 60 sq m master bedroom above which has open cieling over 5m high. Total heated volume must be around 450+ cubic metres. Full output will heat it all quite quickly and then the thermostat keeps it at 20° downstairs ans 18° upstairs at fairly low output, probably around 10kW.
This is a very old farmhouse with 60cm thick walls and minimal insulation.
hoppo4.2 said:
I have a 5 kw in a 4x4 room solid walls no insulation. Single glazed with suspended floors and if i get it on full blast its still not enough. Unless i fill it with coal and get it glowing white.
I plan to get something much larger.
Why don't you insulate the walls instead? You'll get quicker temperature response and less work feeding the fire.I plan to get something much larger.
4 things will happen if you buy a 26kw stove.
1) You won't be able to sit in your lounge
2) You won't be able to sleep upstairs as it will be about 35 degrees
3) You'll near drown in the condensation you'll create
4) You'll die form exhaustion due to the amount of wood you need to chop/move/buy
I have a 6kw stove in my kitchen diner and a 4kw stove in my lounge.
Our house is timber framed, timber clad, built in the 30's. I have put 3" celotex in all external walls and have insulated the ceiling. We have wooden floors with no insulation underneath.
Normally we get buy with just the 6kw stove going, if we're settling in for the evening in the lounge we'll light that one as well.
Our house is normally between 23 and 25 degrees, and first thing in the morning (6.30am) when I light the fire the temperature has dropped to around 18 degrees.
1) You won't be able to sit in your lounge
2) You won't be able to sleep upstairs as it will be about 35 degrees
3) You'll near drown in the condensation you'll create
4) You'll die form exhaustion due to the amount of wood you need to chop/move/buy
I have a 6kw stove in my kitchen diner and a 4kw stove in my lounge.
Our house is timber framed, timber clad, built in the 30's. I have put 3" celotex in all external walls and have insulated the ceiling. We have wooden floors with no insulation underneath.
Normally we get buy with just the 6kw stove going, if we're settling in for the evening in the lounge we'll light that one as well.
Our house is normally between 23 and 25 degrees, and first thing in the morning (6.30am) when I light the fire the temperature has dropped to around 18 degrees.
We found the stove has to be run fairly hot to keep the chimney warm otherwise it can cause issues with airflow and tar formation, although with the size of stove you're talking about having anything left above it might be more of a concern.
Edited by wombleh on Wednesday 18th February 13:22
you're visitors will have to bring their bathing costumes.I tend to agree, you need to sort out the other issues first, you'll either baste yourself in suntan lotion, or not be able to run it hot enough, which has other issues, especially once renovated.
You'll never run it at 26kw, most of the time you sit between 50-70% of complete output, even so, it will eat wood at a prodigious rate. We have an 8kw in a 8m x 8m room (12-15 logs per night in winter) and whilst I'm in a t-shirt and shorts, the missus can still be under a blanket!
You'll never run it at 26kw, most of the time you sit between 50-70% of complete output, even so, it will eat wood at a prodigious rate. We have an 8kw in a 8m x 8m room (12-15 logs per night in winter) and whilst I'm in a t-shirt and shorts, the missus can still be under a blanket!
C Lee Farquar said:
I agree, saves a lot of effort if you process your own.
We have a 13kw one with poor insulation, if it gets too hot we open the windows to blow the heat around. You can just put less wood on.
Father recently had a 5kw one fitted and struggles to get enough heat.
Get what you want!
This is the only sensible post here. You control the output by the ammount of fuel you put in the stoveWe have a 13kw one with poor insulation, if it gets too hot we open the windows to blow the heat around. You can just put less wood on.
Father recently had a 5kw one fitted and struggles to get enough heat.
Get what you want!
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