Woodstove, I want BIG, installer says I'll melt, thoughts?

Woodstove, I want BIG, installer says I'll melt, thoughts?

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ShiningWit

10,203 posts

129 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Eleven said:
cheddar said:
I turned it right down after the stinky coatings had burnt off and went outside to cool down, 2 hours later it's still mid thirties indoors.
And you've had the windows open.

Remember that over hours it will radiate heat continuously and the effect will be cumulative. You can look forward to temperatures well in excess of those so far recorded I suspect.
You aren't taking all the facts into consideration. Dependent on where in NZ he is their current ambient is over twice ours (their March is like our August/September) and he lives in a tin shack with no insulation.
The true test will come in Winter (which is our Summer).

Edited by ShiningWit on Tuesday 10th March 09:07

essayer

9,094 posts

195 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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OP? OP? Where are you?



Rosscow

8,782 posts

164 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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yikes

Simpo Two

85,652 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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384C is very hgh to run a stove at. IIRC you're supposed to have a few cool burns first to help temper the metal and reduce risk of cracking.

Anyway, well done - you must feel ike Alan Sheppard did after his first Earth orbit!

bingybongy

3,880 posts

147 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Probably my favourite thread for ages.
Well done OP, keep us updated during the winter please, especially if you get snow. I'd like to see the snow free zone round the house.

Asterix

24,438 posts

229 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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PH Meet at Chedder's place next week?


Simpo Two

85,652 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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I think the lol: post ratio of this thread must be a record.

BenWRXSEi

2,348 posts

135 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Simpo Two said:
384C is very hgh to run a stove at. IIRC you're supposed to have a few cool burns first to help temper the metal and reduce risk of cracking.
I suspect that was a cool burn hehe

wolfracesonic

7,052 posts

128 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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cheddar said:
Mmmm, the forest/person ration isn't quite as good as you might think Simpo, over the last 800 years we've either felled or burnt 75% of our trees.

Last years big storm bought down over a million trees local to me, so firewood is now free as long as you're willing to do the graft, otherwise it's £50 a cubic metre.

This one came down in my neighours garden, just missing his insured garage, insured house and insured outbuilding but nailing his uninsured car:

Soon to be 100% if you plan on keeping warmthumbup

Pesty

42,655 posts

257 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Lol

24kw I think mine is 8 and its unbearbly hot and my living room is quite big.

longshot

3,286 posts

199 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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23kw?!!!.

OP, don't do any decorating or renovating for a while.
That thing is going to dry the whole housing to a cinder and you'll end up with shrinkage everywhere.
Can you still get asbestos wallpaper?

essayer

9,094 posts

195 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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sparkythecat said:
To help you run your stove at best efficiency, get yourself a simple flue thermometer like this.
Costing only £4-5 they are magnetic and stick on the single walled part of your flue immediately above the stove. Just vary the amount of wood and air going into the stove to keep the needle in the sweet spot.



hehe

reality:


cheddar

Original Poster:

4,637 posts

175 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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Update:

Firstly, thanks for all your input, good old PH, I had a great chuckle at all of the volcano/furnace/firesuit type images and appreciate the more pragmatic thoughtful suggestions.

Yesterdays burn:
I put the last log on at 5pm, measured temps, took pics for you lot then turned it right down and went out and played golf because I was too hot, 2 hours later it was still mid-thirties indoors and 4 hours later there were still 3 of the logs simmering merrily away and the stove top was 190c. I'm pleased with the 'slow burn' temps and the apparent low fuel use but I was hot and, unfortunately, earlier that afternoon I'd made curry for dinner, I ate that in my underpants.

Simpo - you're right, I shouldn't have done a high temp run straight away, I found that out later, the stove was only running hot for 20 minutes and I think it's capable of much higher temps(!) so it should be fine. I just used soft pine logs and never filled the thing right up so it's got plenty more horsepower than I used - because that's what I need right!

Thanks to the recent storms I've got 7 species of trees to burn this year including really hard stuff like oak and eucalyptus, think I'll save that for the really cold days.

It'll take a bit learning, the old in-built stove needed to be completely filled with perfect wood and all settings on absolute maximum to put out any heat at all, this new thing, despite the size, heats up very quickly and when I walked past it I had to shield my face from the heat, night and day difference.

Overkill? Probably but the cold days ahead will be the true test, as long as I can turn it down to regulate temperature I think it'll be fine, sweeping the flue/chimney is a 5 minute job so I'm not concerned about gumming up with lower temp running. It was a 30c day yesterday so not really representative of what's to come.

Am I pleased? Right now I'm more amazed than pleased, although I have got that kind of chuffed up feel that Rolls Royce owners must have when their Power Reserve Dial shows 90% available at a steady 100mph - if you get my drift.


softtop

3,058 posts

248 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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cheddar said:
Update:

Firstly, thanks for all your input, good old PH, I had a great chuckle at all of the volcano/furnace/firesuit type images and appreciate the more pragmatic thoughtful suggestions.

Yesterdays burn:
I put the last log on at 5pm, measured temps, took pics for you lot then turned it right down and went out and played golf because I was too hot, 2 hours later it was still mid-thirties indoors and 4 hours later there were still 3 of the logs simmering merrily away and the stove top was 190c. I'm pleased with the 'slow burn' temps and the apparent low fuel use but I was hot and, unfortunately, earlier that afternoon I'd made curry for dinner, I ate that in my underpants.

Simpo - you're right, I shouldn't have done a high temp run straight away, I found that out later, the stove was only running hot for 20 minutes and I think it's capable of much higher temps(!) so it should be fine. I just used soft pine logs and never filled the thing right up so it's got plenty more horsepower than I used - because that's what I need right!

Thanks to the recent storms I've got 7 species of trees to burn this year including really hard stuff like oak and eucalyptus, think I'll save that for the really cold days.

It'll take a bit learning, the old in-built stove needed to be completely filled with perfect wood and all settings on absolute maximum to put out any heat at all, this new thing, despite the size, heats up very quickly and when I walked past it I had to shield my face from the heat, night and day difference.

Overkill? Probably but the cold days ahead will be the true test, as long as I can turn it down to regulate temperature I think it'll be fine, sweeping the flue/chimney is a 5 minute job so I'm not concerned about gumming up with lower temp running. It was a 30c day yesterday so not really representative of what's to come.

Am I pleased? Right now I'm more amazed than pleased, although I have got that kind of chuffed up feel that Rolls Royce owners must have when their Power Reserve Dial shows 90% available at a steady 100mph - if you get my drift.
good write up, brilliant

dmitsi

3,583 posts

221 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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I admire your willingness to ignore professional advice and go with a furnace massively overspecced. Being in NZ aren't you a bit concerned about the proximity of Antarctica? I hear enough of the greenies bleating on about melting ice caps already.

Baldinho

585 posts

215 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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cheddar said:
Update:

...earlier that afternoon I'd made curry for dinner, I ate that in my underpants.
I normally use a plate!

Hats off to you and your new burner - a braver man than many :@)

whoami

13,151 posts

241 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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cheddar said:
when I walked past it I had to shield my face from the heat
laugh

Great thread.

Simpo Two

85,652 posts

266 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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cheddar said:
sweeping the flue/chimney is a 5 minute job
Well of course it is - you just put a ladder inside and climb up!

HotJambalaya

2,026 posts

181 months

Tuesday 10th March 2015
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literally love this thread. One man, who asks lots of advice, then ignores it all and carries on with the mightiest forge man can make, superb effort.

I really hope you update this regularly as you plunge into winter and are fully vindicated!

Bonefish Blues

26,924 posts

224 months

Wednesday 11th March 2015
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Simpo Two said:
cheddar said:
sweeping the flue/chimney is a 5 minute job
Well of course it is - you just put a ladder inside and climb up!
Do they not still have sweep boys in NZ wink