Woodstove, I want BIG, installer says I'll melt, thoughts?

[sparkythecat]

To help you run your stove at best efficiency, get yourself a simple flue thermometer like this.
Costing only £4-5 they are magnetic and stick on the single walled part of your flue immediately above the stove. Just vary the amount of wood and air going into the stove to keep the needle in the sweet spot.

[cheddar]

sparkythecat said:

To help you run your stove at best efficiency, get yourself a simple flue thermometer like this.
Costing only £4-5 they are magnetic and stick on the single walled part of your flue immediately above the stove. Just vary the amount of wood and air going into the stove to keep the needle in the sweet spot.

Thanks Sparky - I'm onto that, probably going with a 4 blade stove top fan/flue thermometer combo on a deal for £60.

I'm also getting a infrared laser thermometer for spot temps plus my weather station for indoor temps in different areas.

I like measuring things.

[Bonefish Blues]

Ballsy call OP.

[Simpo Two]

cheddar said:

23.4kw, 76 litre log capacity, takes logs up to 2 feet long.

Pick it up on Thursday, 220kgs apparently, hope to have it installed either next Friday or the following Monday. The installer is fitting a protective heat shield behind it so that the house doesn't burn down.

I'm curious to see this beast (and see how much of the Flying Scotsman is left on it)

[Shaolin]

Simpo Two said:

I'm curious to see this beast (and see how much of the Flying Scotsman is left on it)

That's before the heat shield and fan are fitted obvs - and that's with proper hard wood.

[C Lee Farquar]

Those infra red laser thermometers are handy as you can measure the stove, flue, nearby fabric and also the fabric of the building elsewhere to see how much difference you're making.

Personally I think you'll get enough convection without a fan but will be interested to hear feedback.

Tip for the weather station - set it to fahrenheit, you know you've arrived when you hit 100 deg.

[guindilias]

What model is this beast of a stove? I'm fascinated to see what something that huge looks like!

Edit - and this being PH, HEAT MATTERS!, I think you are legally obliged to get a Stirling engine powered stovetop fan... brilliant bits of kit!

Edited by guindilias on Saturday 21st February 19:24

[cheddar]

guindilias said:

What model is this beast of a stove? I'm fascinated to see what something that huge looks like!

Edit - and this being PH, HEAT MATTERS!, I think you are legally obliged to get a Stirling engine powered stovetop fan... brilliant bits of kit!

Edited by guindilias on Saturday 21st February 19:24

It doesn't look that big in the pictures and it's functional rather than stylish, pic in the link below, and, yes, I've ordered the stove top fan.

http://woodsman.co.nz/wood/woodsman/tarras-mk-iii

[guindilias]

That looks awesome, and I would disagree that it looks functional rather than attractive - looks great!
Are you getting the back boiler ("wet back") as well? You could probably heat the whole house with it if you find it's too hot for one room...

[cheddar]

guindilias said:

That looks awesome, and I would disagree that it looks functional rather than attractive - looks great!
Are you getting the back boiler ("wet back") as well? You could probably heat the whole house with it if you find it's too hot for one room...

They do a 'wet' version of the same model but my cylinder's too far away from my woodstove to efficiently run it.

I've got a wet back coal range in the kitchen.

Bugger to run, does the job:

[KemP]

Dude you are going to cook your self with the oven. We have a 7KW burning thing. The lounge where the fire is is 65sqm. I'm sat in a tee shirt most days and we dont run the thing full pelt. I live in Norway.

I hope you have a good source for firewood your doing to burn through it like you would not believe.

[PugwasHDJ80]

KemP said:

Dude you are going to cook your self with the oven. We have a 7KW burning thing. The lounge where the fire is is 65sqm. I'm sat in a tee shirt most days and we dont run the thing full pelt. I live in Norway.

I hope you have a good source for firewood your doing to burn through it like you would not believe.

But that'll be because the house is well insulated

We have a 13kw heater in a room that we were guaranteed needed no more than 5max

Our house in a 18c country house with single glazed Ali windows with gaps in the frames, our walls are porous when the wind blows.

When it's cold or blowy we find the stove too small and wish we had a 17kw version

It also heats the room upstairs!

[cheddar]

PugwasHDJ80 said:

KemP said:

Dude you are going to cook your self with the oven. We have a 7KW burning thing. The lounge where the fire is is 65sqm. I'm sat in a tee shirt most days and we dont run the thing full pelt. I live in Norway.

I hope you have a good source for firewood your doing to burn through it like you would not believe.

But that'll be because the house is well insulated

We have a 13kw heater in a room that we were guaranteed needed no more than 5max

Our house in a 18c country house with single glazed Ali windows with gaps in the frames, our walls are porous when the wind blows.

When it's cold or blowy we find the stove too small and wish we had a 17kw version

It also heats the room upstairs!

Pugwash, I think you're right and having less heat than you'd like always irks whereas having too much heat gives you choices.

I'll stick my neck out here and say that on cold days I don't believe my new stove will heat the whole house.

[guindilias]

I have 92 acres of woodland, albeit on an island in Loch Erne - feel free to hire a firewood processor and we'll find a container to ship yer logs back to GB in! call it a 50//50 split?

[Eleven]

cheddar said:

PugwasHDJ80 said:

KemP said:

Dude you are going to cook your self with the oven. We have a 7KW burning thing. The lounge where the fire is is 65sqm. I'm sat in a tee shirt most days and we dont run the thing full pelt. I live in Norway.

I hope you have a good source for firewood your doing to burn through it like you would not believe.

But that'll be because the house is well insulated

We have a 13kw heater in a room that we were guaranteed needed no more than 5max

Our house in a 18c country house with single glazed Ali windows with gaps in the frames, our walls are porous when the wind blows.

When it's cold or blowy we find the stove too small and wish we had a 17kw version

It also heats the room upstairs!

Pugwash, I think you're right and having less heat than you'd like always irks whereas having too much heat gives you choices.

I'll stick my neck out here and say that on cold days I don't believe my new stove will heat the whole house.

I'll stick MY neck out here and say that when you fire up your new stove Chernobyl will become but a fond memory.

[Craikeybaby]

Has the OP melted yet?

[rb5er]

Yep, burnt his house down and gone.

[boyse7en]

frank hovis said:

This my woodburner with obligatory hairy beast in front of it

It's a 6kw multi fuel in a room that approx 6m x4.5m

Even with doors open to the kitchen and un heated hallway it's so warm we sit in t shirts

A 24k is mental ! And would go through horrendous amounts of wood per hour

Never mind the woodburner, that Artexing is bloomin hideous

[Simpo Two]

In fact the carpet is stuck on the ceiling with Evo-Stik, and the dog to the carpet with Velcro.

[ShiningWit]

C Lee Farquar said:

Those infra red laser thermometers are handy as you can measure the stove, flue, nearby fabric and also the fabric of the building elsewhere to see how much difference you're making.

Personally I think you'll get enough convection without a fan but will be interested to hear feedback.

Tip for the weather station - set it to fahrenheit, you know you've arrived when you hit 100 deg.

They aren't that great as you will get a totally different temp dependent on surface colour/texture - I know I have one! If you have say a shiny SS flue with black spots on it shifting the red dot from one to the other sees a marked difference.

I put a temp probe on top of my stove last weekend and it read 200'c. It all depends on how long you leave them on, after 4-6hrs of mine it's warmed the whole ground floor up including conservatory and is starting to get a bit uncomfortable for me, it also permeates into the bedroom which is above it.
If I was to start again I would install a warm air circulation system which pulled air around the house when it was on, you can build your own quite easily (in a bungalow) with ducts made from thin ply hidden in the ceiling voids, a bit harder in a two storey house.