Field behind our property will be a housing estate

Field behind our property will be a housing estate

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MrJuice

3,370 posts

156 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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I'd estimate each of the decision makers had a nice bonus drip in their lap before the permission was granted.

Property is a filthy business

funkyrobot

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18,789 posts

228 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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blueg33 said:
Lots of people have been hit like this, the LA's were too crap to get their local plans up to date and the the NPPF that was introduced by the governament, basically said that if a local plan is not up tp date then any site is fair game.

I think its too late for any objection now, your only route would be a Judicial Review (you have 6 weeks from the decision notice being issued). But as Surveyor said, all this looks at is whether the application was dealt with using the correct process, it will look at whether the decision made would have been the same if corect process had been followed, and it will either uphold or overturn the decision. It is a very expensive process and you would have a virtually nil chance of success.

All - check your local plans and make representations as necessary. If the plan is out of date start making lots of noise to the Council. Your neighbouring land is at risk of development of you dont.
Thanks. I doubt I will have the funds for that. smile

BongoHunter

27 posts

120 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Are you on the Wygate Side of town?

As I understand it a new town plan has just been drawn up.

Unfortunately the town is not what it was, over the last 10 years its changed a lot frown

funkyrobot

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Friday 20th March 2015
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MDMetal said:
Not wanting to cause any offense at all but where should people build all the new houses that the country desperately needs? I live just outside of Cambridge, have a good job that pays well and I can't afford to live in the city unless I lived in the worst areas. For the same price (just under 200k) I have the privilege of living in a nice-ish village but it's not in the city and it's silly money. All this because of a lack of houses.

Things like concerns over the drainage should be raised as serious concerns definitely but that will at best require them to have a more sensible plan not to abandon the project.
We raised our concerns in the proper manner. I did plenty of research and outlined my objections in the correct way (i.e. I didn't slate the build, but pointed out our concerns). Drainage was one of the big ones, but it's been ignored.

Re housing, have you seen the stats for the number of empty homes in the country?

funkyrobot

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Friday 20th March 2015
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BongoHunter said:
Are you on the Wygate Side of town?

As I understand it a new town plan has just been drawn up.

Unfortunately the town is not what it was, over the last 10 years its changed a lot frown
Yes, Pinchbeck way.

I'll see if I can find the plan.

funkyrobot

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Friday 20th March 2015
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MrJuice said:
I'd estimate each of the decision makers had a nice bonus drip in their lap before the permission was granted.

Property is a filthy business
There is a £200,000 'incentive' being paid by the builder. smile

funkyrobot

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Friday 20th March 2015
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jogon said:
Start planting some giant conifers and vote UKIP.
smile

funkyrobot

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Friday 20th March 2015
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sc0tt said:
funkyrobot said:
sc0tt said:
what town do you live in
I live near Spalding, Lincs.
Thanks, will give it a miss.
Good choice. We live outside of the town so don't have to venture into it unless we need to.

Fitz666

638 posts

142 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Never buy a house for the view, until you own the view....

funkyrobot

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Friday 20th March 2015
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Fitz666 said:
Never buy a house for the view, until you own the view....
It wasn't just for that. That was a bonus.

Oh well. We all need a little whinge now and then. smile

Mr Adds

264 posts

149 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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I am a Planning Officer, albeit in the North East. The recent govt guidance in the NPPF puts the emphahsis more on sustainability for new developments, how near existing services the proposal would be, transport links etc... but policies in the old local plans should still be compliant.

Our new local plan does not have settlement limits, rather settlements are scored on existing facilities, and new development is directed towards them.

A scheme that large would have been decided by a planning committee as its a major scheme- did you speak to any councillors before the committee, or did any neighbours speak at the meeting itself?

In terms of mini markets and gambling shops, the mini markets are an A1 retail use, the majority of A1 uses are in town centres as they are essentially shope so changes between different A1 uses do not require consent. Betting shops are an A2 use, again, the majority of which are located in town centres, and may not have required permission.

Im my 10 years of planning, the only bribe I have been offered was a bottle of vodka when dealing with a smoking shelter at a club...


blueg33

35,945 posts

224 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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In terms of the drainage, I woudn't worry too much. The developer will almost certainly be required to attenuate the surface waer run off rates tio match those of a greenfield, they will also need to address flooding issues to make it possible to sell the houses.

I have a project in Birmingham where the storm water attenuation is a massive underground storage tank 3 metres in diameter and 30 metres long, this is to serve 18 houses and 32 apartments. In Norfolk we are about to complete a health centre and the entire carpark sits on "crates" a type of storm water attenuation, that discharges into the ditch behind some houses. The field use to flood, now it doesnt, so we have improved the position for the neighbours, as well as building a jolly nice place for them to go to to see the doc.

benters

1,459 posts

134 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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There is of course the inconceivable notion that putting up new houses will actually enhance your town, for a development this size there will be a 106 agreement meaning the developer will need to put the council in funds of god knows how much which potentially could be used for schools, bus improvements, leisure facilities, street lighting etc etc.
It could also mean that the local business do better, attract more customers, so your town improves its standing and house prices including your rise as the area goes through the cycle.




Rude-boy

22,227 posts

233 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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If it helps with anyone's blood pressure I have been aware from start to finish in a deal over the last 10 years or so where I can absolutely 100% tell you that there was NO money changing hands 'off the books' and we are talking about the same sort of ball park number of residential units.

Anyway, be careful how you deal with your boundary structures:-

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/high-he...


Oldandslow

2,405 posts

206 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Write to Private Eye.

It won't help but they might make it more amusing.

Funkycoldribena

7,379 posts

154 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Maybe there was an objection to your house being built and an objection to that persons house being built who objected to that house being built....

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

157 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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funkyrobot said:
There is a £200,000 'incentive' being paid by the builder. smile
It's Council legalised extortion not an incentive.

Developers wouldn't pay it unless they had to.

BoRED S2upid

19,711 posts

240 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Find some Newts = no building anytime soon.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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funkyrobot said:
dtmpower said:
funkyrobot said:
department has seen the opening of loads of European mini markets and gambling shops in the local town, whilst other types of shop have closed.
What's this got to do with housing ?
Because they seem hell bent on letting the local town go downhill whilst ruining the area around it.
Your own house ruined the land it sits on just as much as these new houses will ruin the land that they sit on.

Bet you don't object to your own house though. Nobody ever lobbies against their own house.

New houses are always a looming total disaster, but the house someone already lives in is never a problem at all.

Weird.

SpeckledJim

31,608 posts

253 months

Friday 20th March 2015
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Mr Adds said:
In terms of mini markets and gambling shops, the mini markets are an A1 retail use, the majority of A1 uses are in town centres as they are essentially shope so changes between different A1 uses do not require consent. Betting shops are an A2 use, again, the majority of which are located in town centres, and may not have required permission.
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Unintelligible MUSTARD! Pickled CABBAGE!

Sickos!