Field behind our property will be a housing estate

Field behind our property will be a housing estate

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funkyrobot

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BoRED S2upid said:
Find some Newts = no building anytime soon.
Newts were investigated. Apparently, they didn't object.

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SpeckledJim said:
funkyrobot said:
dtmpower said:
funkyrobot said:
department has seen the opening of loads of European mini markets and gambling shops in the local town, whilst other types of shop have closed.
What's this got to do with housing ?
Because they seem hell bent on letting the local town go downhill whilst ruining the area around it.
Your own house ruined the land it sits on just as much as these new houses will ruin the land that they sit on.

Bet you don't object to your own house though. Nobody ever lobbies against their own house.

New houses are always a looming total disaster, but the house someone already lives in is never a problem at all.

Weird.
Our house was built on land designated for the purpose. The new houses are being built on land that was meant to be left clear of buildings.

Also, our house wasn't built because too many people now reside here. smile

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SpeckledJim said:
funkyrobot said:
Again though, these rejections have been ignored.
If the complaints of the already-live-here-thanks were heeded, nothing would ever be built, anywhere.
Why do they let you make comments then if all they will do is ignore them?

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Rude-boy said:
Hey guys,

Give the OP a bit of a break.

I think that we would all be a little pissed if we had thought that our nice little house with a nice view was about to go from one in a row along a road to one of the edge of a 170 house estate. Yes we need to build more houses and they will have to go somewhere but in all honesty there are very few of us who would rejoice at the prospect of such a thing next to us, unless of course we owned the field...

Perhaps the OP is being a little NIMBY but as said I am sure that we would all feel like that, certainly day one. In time the impact and so on might well prove positive for the OP but I can see their concerns and frustrations.

OP the one thing that would bother me (and yes I know that there will be people along to bh about me saying this) is where the Affordable Housing/Housing Association plots will fall. My guess is along the boundary with the IE as best put it there rather than try to sell private plots between HA and IE. Check though as, being selfish at times myself and also dealing with property daily, it would be a move maker if the HA stuff was going to be next to me. Many HA tenants are great salt of the earth types, many are just fine, a few though are utter c-units and spoil it for all.
Thanks.

I'm not being NIMBY at all. I'm just concerned that so many houses are being built in this area. smile

As mentioned above, the view will be spoiled, but it was a bonus. Our objections to the plan were based on more practical things such as raising the site, the local plan, the local area, services, amenities etc. For instance, the road structure around the site is not suitable at all. The main town is over a mile away. But due to the way the layout is designed we already have cars queueing up to our house. Add the traffic for another 170 homes and it'll be mad. What about parking? Estates are built now with one space per house and you see cars all over the road.

However, I'm sure some much more qualified engineer has disagreed with me and said everything is fine.

According to the plans, the affordable homes are going to be away from us at the entrance to the site. They are supposed to be building 'executive bungalows' at our end of the field. We'll see. smile

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corporalsparrow said:
Aren't there some very rare newts living in that field?
As I said above, they didn't object to the plans when questioned. smile

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Hooli said:
Get a Tree Preservation Order on it now.

We had a row of trees behind our old house which were meant to stay when the old college site was used for housing. Yet one saturday morning they all got chopped down. about ten two hundred year old trees, gone for no reason.
Thanks. I'll look into that asap. Would be good if we could at least keep that monster there. I wouldn't want someone to move into the house on the other side and complain about it.

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northwest monkey said:
Because people will make all sorts of comments - some relevant & some not.

If you get the chance, have a look on I-player for a BBC programme called "The Planners". It's a really interesting series & looks at the decision making process from start to finish on both sides.

There were a couple of applications on that programme which nobody wanted (including the planning committee), but they fulfilled all the requirements for what Central Government wanted so they had basically no choice but to approve.

One was a similar situation to you, but the people objecting were living in 1990s Barratts houses objecting to new-builds going up in the fields in front of them. They failed to see the irony of their complaints.
Ok, thanks. I'll take a look.

I completely understand that people will complain about new things being built near them. However, we had some genuine reasons for objecting that weren't simply based on us being a bit NIMBY. We based our objection on these factual points. smile

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gus607 said:
NIMBYism at it's best.
Yes, and you are a prime example of an idiotism.

smile

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blueg33 said:
Too late for a TPO is planning has been granted.

You have to understand that the developer will know how to tackle all of these "quasi" issues. We do it day in day out.
Balls.

Oh well. The plans show the trees there. We'll see though. smile

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Colonial said:
funkyrobot said:
Why do they let you make comments then if all they will do is ignore them?
They are taken into account.

However, your wishes are not the only thing taken into account.

The only way you can assure that your neighbours don't do something you don't want them to do is to buy the land for yourself.
I'll try to save some money and buy the house that will be at the end of our garden, on the other side of the ditch. smile

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Pothole said:
funkyrobot said:
dtmpower said:
funkyrobot said:
department has seen the opening of loads of European mini markets and gambling shops in the local town, whilst other types of shop have closed.
What's this got to do with housing ?
Because they seem hell bent on letting the local town go downhill whilst ruining the area around it.
you sure you're not a bit racist?
How can referring to my local council's planning committee chairman who is white British be considered racist?

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SpeckledJim said:
funkyrobot said:
northwest monkey said:
Because people will make all sorts of comments - some relevant & some not.

If you get the chance, have a look on I-player for a BBC programme called "The Planners". It's a really interesting series & looks at the decision making process from start to finish on both sides.

There were a couple of applications on that programme which nobody wanted (including the planning committee), but they fulfilled all the requirements for what Central Government wanted so they had basically no choice but to approve.

One was a similar situation to you, but the people objecting were living in 1990s Barratts houses objecting to new-builds going up in the fields in front of them. They failed to see the irony of their complaints.
Ok, thanks. I'll take a look.

I completely understand that people will complain about new things being built near them. However, we had some genuine reasons for objecting that weren't simply based on us being a bit NIMBY. We based our objection on these factual points. smile
But I take it you don't spend any effort protesting about developments in other towns where you don't live?

You're only upset about the one in your back yard?

Nobody gets worked-up about Not In Someone Else's Back Yard
I do actually. smile

However, it has to be a certain plan as I'm sure that a lot of comments aren't valid if you aren't a local resident.

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SpeckledJim said:
I've no dog in this fight but I think your reference to 'European mini-marts' may be the thread of your petard.

I think some might guess you wouldn't be so upset with a preponderance of 'Lincolnshire Artisanal Boutiques'.
You are wrong.

I mention the European mini-marts because they really are cropping up everywhere in my local town. There isn't much else that is appearing at such a rate.

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SpeckledJim said:
Spondooly. I've always used it to mean new, shiny, nice, ta-daaa. As in:

"Tony loved his spondooly trousers. They were whizzo"

coffee
But it seems urban dictionary reckons it means money or cash?

Never mind. My point was that the near 100-year-old house he lives was at one point not welcome in the village.

But times change and now his house IS the village, and these new ones are not welcome.
My house resides on a road between the village and the town. It's part of an established row of houses that has been there for nearly 100 years. There simply isn't anything else around that my house had an impact on. Field is behind and field is over the road. How could someone complain when a house is built on a road with nothing else around it?

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CubanPete said:
My mate bought a new build house, and then tried to fight the rest of the development being built!

He didn't get it either when all his mates suggested he wasn't thinking clearly...
hehe

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Pothole said:
funkyrobot said:
Pothole said:
funkyrobot said:
dtmpower said:
funkyrobot said:
department has seen the opening of loads of European mini markets and gambling shops in the local town, whilst other types of shop have closed.
What's this got to do with housing ?
Because they seem hell bent on letting the local town go downhill whilst ruining the area around it.
you sure you're not a bit racist?
How can referring to my local council's planning committee chairman who is white British be considered racist?
It can't. Unless you're really dim, you know exactly what I mean. Why didn't you say Eastern European if you were too scared to say Polish?
What the hell are you on about?

They are European shops. Some are Polish based, some are Portugese based etc. They aren't all Eastern European.

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Nerfbat said:
I feel your pain - several years ago we had new housing built on the field that used to be behind our house. Our garden contains a lot of very large trees, and they built the new houses too close to our boundary, so we now get complaints about the trees blocking their light, acorns making lots of noise when they drop on their shed roofs and other similarly daft complaints.The trees were there when you bought the flaming houses !
This is our concern with the large tree at the end of the garden. What if someone moves in and then moans about some of the above?

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Pothole said:
funkyrobot said:
Pothole said:
funkyrobot said:
Pothole said:
funkyrobot said:
dtmpower said:
funkyrobot said:
department has seen the opening of loads of European mini markets and gambling shops in the local town, whilst other types of shop have closed.
What's this got to do with housing ?
Because they seem hell bent on letting the local town go downhill whilst ruining the area around it.
you sure you're not a bit racist?
How can referring to my local council's planning committee chairman who is white British be considered racist?
It can't. Unless you're really dim, you know exactly what I mean. Why didn't you say Eastern European if you were too scared to say Polish?
What the hell are you on about?

They are European shops. Some are Polish based, some are Portugese based etc. They aren't all Eastern European.
It was a simple, closed question.
Along with the dim insult? You clearly know nothing about the situation so you should keep your stupid comments to yourself.

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blueg33 said:
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This is our concern with the large tree at the end of the garden. What if someone moves in and then moans about some of the above?
TBH, if the tree is healthy and not dangerous then buyers would have to lump it, you would hope. Although I doubt you would get a TPO, why not drop the tree officer a line with your comcerns. Do you have a site layout, do you know if there is a house directly abutting your boundary?
We have the site layout and the tree is quite clearly there. Part of the planning application was the retention of all boundary trees and associated hedges etc.

I'll ask the question. smile

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rev-erend said:
jogon said:
Start planting some giant conifers and vote UKIP.
Good idea biggrin
Both of them?

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