Field behind our property will be a housing estate
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funkyrobot said:
I'll try to save some money and buy the house that will be at the end of our garden, on the other side of the ditch. 
Only way you can guarantee no development near you. Not saying this is the case for you, but I had a great objection to one I was doing for a client (consultant town planner). Lived in a 4 year old new build in a new estate. Lodged objection after objection when Stage 2 of the development was released because it "would destroy his rural vista". Neatly forgetting the fact that his house did the same when it was built to his neighbours...
SpeckledJim said:
But I take it you don't spend any effort protesting about developments in other towns where you don't live?
You're only upset about the one in your back yard?
Nobody gets worked-up about Not In Someone Else's Back Yard
Nah, there's the BANANA. Built Absolutely Nothing Anywhere Near Anyone. You're only upset about the one in your back yard?
Nobody gets worked-up about Not In Someone Else's Back Yard
Mabbs9 said:
My Gran was a planning officer. She was offered a bungalow to OK a project. She was the only one who said "no, thanks". That was in the 70's. It is probably worse now.
I highly doubt it. It is incredibly tightly regulated now. The worst I was offered when I was dealing with multi-million developments in an assessment role was a bottle of cheapish wine as a thanks from a group of Surveyors for running a presentation on changes to legislation. And that was just a thankyou from people I don't deal with. I still had to fill out about 4 pages of reports about it due to any perceived influence or corruption. That kind of thing is incredibly regulated, acts have been developed to prohibit such activities and it is really very easy to track with one simple complaint, and also very, very, very easy to track.
I lodge maybe 10 applications a month. I have never, never been in a situation where such an offer, even obliquely, was made by an assessing body or individual. Nor was I ever offered anything when I was doing that role, either in the UK or Australia.
It was much worse in the bad old days.
Edited by Colonial on Friday 20th March 13:54
Colonial said:
I highly doubt it. It is incredibly tightly regulated now. The worst I was offered when I was dealing with multi-million developments in an assessment role was a bottle of cheapish wine as a thanks from a group of Surveyors for running a presentation on changes to legislation.
That kind of thing is incredibly regulated and very easy to track with one simple complaint.
It was much worse in the bad old days.
We also now have an Act specifically dealing with such things.That kind of thing is incredibly regulated and very easy to track with one simple complaint.
It was much worse in the bad old days.
Pothole said:
SpeckledJim said:
And I imagine back in the 1930's, everyone in the nice Victorian villas were very upset at the idea of your spondooly house being built.
His what,now?"Tony loved his spondooly trousers. They were whizzo"
But it seems urban dictionary reckons it means money or cash?
Never mind. My point was that the near 100-year-old house he lives was at one point not welcome in the village.
But times change and now his house IS the village, and these new ones are not welcome.
Colonial said:
Mabbs9 said:
My Gran was a planning officer. She was offered a bungalow to OK a project. She was the only one who said "no, thanks". That was in the 70's. It is probably worse now.
I highly doubt it. It is incredibly tightly regulated now. The worst I was offered when I was dealing with multi-million developments in an assessment role was a bottle of cheapish wine as a thanks from a group of Surveyors for running a presentation on changes to legislation. That kind of thing is incredibly regulated and very easy to track with one simple complaint.
It was much worse in the bad old days.
When valuing for lending it's not uncommon for chancer's to chance their hand. Holidays have been floated a few times. It ain't worth it. Nowhere to log these sadly, other than with the firm for whom I am valuing.
surveyor said:
That was a thank-you rather than a bribe surely? I would assume that is the point of it being a cheap bottle of wine to avoid conflict.
When valuing for lending it's not uncommon for chancer's to chance their hand. Holidays have been floated a few times. It ain't worth it. Nowhere to log these sadly, other than with the firm for whom I am valuing.
Yep. Was just a thankyou. Nothing sinister involved in the slightest. Edited my post to made it a bit clearer.When valuing for lending it's not uncommon for chancer's to chance their hand. Holidays have been floated a few times. It ain't worth it. Nowhere to log these sadly, other than with the firm for whom I am valuing.
I've heard similar from valuers here actually. Less controlled maybe?
Rude-boy said:
We also now have an Act specifically dealing with such things.
Yep. See edit. Wasn't quite clear enough. 
Pothole said:
funkyrobot said:
dtmpower said:
funkyrobot said:
department has seen the opening of loads of European mini markets and gambling shops in the local town, whilst other types of shop have closed.
What's this got to do with housing ?SpeckledJim said:
funkyrobot said:
northwest monkey said:
Because people will make all sorts of comments - some relevant & some not.
If you get the chance, have a look on I-player for a BBC programme called "The Planners". It's a really interesting series & looks at the decision making process from start to finish on both sides.
There were a couple of applications on that programme which nobody wanted (including the planning committee), but they fulfilled all the requirements for what Central Government wanted so they had basically no choice but to approve.
One was a similar situation to you, but the people objecting were living in 1990s Barratts houses objecting to new-builds going up in the fields in front of them. They failed to see the irony of their complaints.
Ok, thanks. I'll take a look.If you get the chance, have a look on I-player for a BBC programme called "The Planners". It's a really interesting series & looks at the decision making process from start to finish on both sides.
There were a couple of applications on that programme which nobody wanted (including the planning committee), but they fulfilled all the requirements for what Central Government wanted so they had basically no choice but to approve.
One was a similar situation to you, but the people objecting were living in 1990s Barratts houses objecting to new-builds going up in the fields in front of them. They failed to see the irony of their complaints.
I completely understand that people will complain about new things being built near them. However, we had some genuine reasons for objecting that weren't simply based on us being a bit NIMBY. We based our objection on these factual points.
You're only upset about the one in your back yard?
Nobody gets worked-up about Not In Someone Else's Back Yard
However, it has to be a certain plan as I'm sure that a lot of comments aren't valid if you aren't a local resident.
funkyrobot said:
Pothole said:
funkyrobot said:
dtmpower said:
funkyrobot said:
department has seen the opening of loads of European mini markets and gambling shops in the local town, whilst other types of shop have closed.
What's this got to do with housing ?I think some might guess you wouldn't be so upset with a preponderance of 'Lincolnshire Artisanal Boutiques'.
funkyrobot said:
SpeckledJim said:
funkyrobot said:
northwest monkey said:
Because people will make all sorts of comments - some relevant & some not.
If you get the chance, have a look on I-player for a BBC programme called "The Planners". It's a really interesting series & looks at the decision making process from start to finish on both sides.
There were a couple of applications on that programme which nobody wanted (including the planning committee), but they fulfilled all the requirements for what Central Government wanted so they had basically no choice but to approve.
One was a similar situation to you, but the people objecting were living in 1990s Barratts houses objecting to new-builds going up in the fields in front of them. They failed to see the irony of their complaints.
Ok, thanks. I'll take a look.If you get the chance, have a look on I-player for a BBC programme called "The Planners". It's a really interesting series & looks at the decision making process from start to finish on both sides.
There were a couple of applications on that programme which nobody wanted (including the planning committee), but they fulfilled all the requirements for what Central Government wanted so they had basically no choice but to approve.
One was a similar situation to you, but the people objecting were living in 1990s Barratts houses objecting to new-builds going up in the fields in front of them. They failed to see the irony of their complaints.
I completely understand that people will complain about new things being built near them. However, we had some genuine reasons for objecting that weren't simply based on us being a bit NIMBY. We based our objection on these factual points.
You're only upset about the one in your back yard?
Nobody gets worked-up about Not In Someone Else's Back Yard
However, it has to be a certain plan as I'm sure that a lot of comments aren't valid if you aren't a local resident.
But if anyone directed me to any of a hundred similar developments elsewhere and said I was a NIMBY because I didn't lift a finger to help prevent any of them, I think I'd have to concede their point.
SpeckledJim said:
Your own house ruined the land it sits on just as much as these new houses will ruin the land that they sit on.
Bet you don't object to your own house though. Nobody ever lobbies against their own house.
New houses are always a looming total disaster, but the house someone already lives in is never a problem at all.
Weird.
My mate bought a new build house, and then tried to fight the rest of the development being built! Bet you don't object to your own house though. Nobody ever lobbies against their own house.
New houses are always a looming total disaster, but the house someone already lives in is never a problem at all.
Weird.
He didn't get it either when all his mates suggested he wasn't thinking clearly...
SpeckledJim said:
I've no dog in this fight but I think your reference to 'European mini-marts' may be the thread of your petard.
I think some might guess you wouldn't be so upset with a preponderance of 'Lincolnshire Artisanal Boutiques'.
You are wrong.I think some might guess you wouldn't be so upset with a preponderance of 'Lincolnshire Artisanal Boutiques'.
I mention the European mini-marts because they really are cropping up everywhere in my local town. There isn't much else that is appearing at such a rate.
SpeckledJim said:
Spondooly. I've always used it to mean new, shiny, nice, ta-daaa. As in:
"Tony loved his spondooly trousers. They were whizzo"
But it seems urban dictionary reckons it means money or cash?
Never mind. My point was that the near 100-year-old house he lives was at one point not welcome in the village.
But times change and now his house IS the village, and these new ones are not welcome.
My house resides on a road between the village and the town. It's part of an established row of houses that has been there for nearly 100 years. There simply isn't anything else around that my house had an impact on. Field is behind and field is over the road. How could someone complain when a house is built on a road with nothing else around it?"Tony loved his spondooly trousers. They were whizzo"
But it seems urban dictionary reckons it means money or cash?
Never mind. My point was that the near 100-year-old house he lives was at one point not welcome in the village.
But times change and now his house IS the village, and these new ones are not welcome.
Colonial said:
surveyor said:
That was a thank-you rather than a bribe surely? I would assume that is the point of it being a cheap bottle of wine to avoid conflict.
When valuing for lending it's not uncommon for chancer's to chance their hand. Holidays have been floated a few times. It ain't worth it. Nowhere to log these sadly, other than with the firm for whom I am valuing.
Yep. Was just a thankyou. Nothing sinister involved in the slightest. Edited my post to made it a bit clearer.When valuing for lending it's not uncommon for chancer's to chance their hand. Holidays have been floated a few times. It ain't worth it. Nowhere to log these sadly, other than with the firm for whom I am valuing.
I've heard similar from valuers here actually. Less controlled maybe?
Same laws apply. I think with the different lenders, borrowers etc. some think that it's worth chancing their hand. I would think it's very rarely taken up, or maybe I'm naive.... dunno.
funkyrobot said:
You are wrong.
I mention the European mini-marts because they really are cropping up everywhere in my local town. There isn't much else that is appearing at such a rate.
Might they be there to serve a local need?I mention the European mini-marts because they really are cropping up everywhere in my local town. There isn't much else that is appearing at such a rate.
Besides, none of that has anything to do with the chairman of the local planning committee - it's just a retail trend.
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