Garden and shed project

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Alex@POD

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215 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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BlackZeD said:
Looks like you forgot the "man bar" methinks.......
No bar in there unfortunately, but we have a minibar in the house though. This is all stuff that is stored out of the rain for now, I haven't actually decided where everything is going to go yet!

hornetrider

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205 months

Sunday 10th May 2015
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Superb project, more power to you for building the shed from scratch.

Alex@POD

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Monday 25th May 2015
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I had a weekend off last week as it was getting a little tiresome doing nothing but the shed every weekend... So I don't have too much progress to report yet, but I now have two locking doors and some windows!




I've started collecting the supplies for the next stage, ie electrics, insulation, boarding, etc. Before I get onto that though I will get the patio and path done, as I've had enough of looking at the pile of earth out of the french doors.

TotalControl

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198 months

Tuesday 26th May 2015
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That looks bloody good. Has this been kept within budget? If so, if I could cheekily ask, how much has this set you back so far?

Edit - just read the figure of £850. Not bad at all.

Alex@POD

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Tuesday 26th May 2015
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TotalControl said:
That looks bloody good. Has this been kept within budget? If so, if I could cheekily ask, how much has this set you back so far?

Edit - just read the figure of £850. Not bad at all.
Thanks! As for budget, Ha! It's so over budget and over time, I just have to get my wife pregnant and I can give Kevin McCloud a shout!

Nah it's not too bad really, but I realise as I go along there are a number of things I forgot to budget for. I've spent a shed load on tools for example, all the ironmongery, some extra bits of wood here and there. It's not much but it adds up quickly! I think, ignoring the tool spend, I'm up to £1300-£1400 for now. I think the total cost when finished will be close to £2400. It's still good in my eyes as similar sized sheds (bought not built) are usually much flimsier and more expensive.

MrBig

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129 months

Wednesday 27th May 2015
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Looks really good! Wish I had the time and the confidence to embark on projects like that. Looking forward to see how you kit it all out too smile

Alex@POD

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Monday 10th August 2015
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Believe it or not, I'm still at it!

Progress has been much slower lately, mostly because I've had a few things to do over the weekends, and I've not worked as fast as I wanted. In any case, the next step of the garden project is done:




It is nice to have somewhere to sit outside in the evenings now, and not to look at a big pile of earth anymore!

Next on the agenda is a bit of tidying up here and there, and insulating and boarding the shed.

hornetrider

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Monday 10th August 2015
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The patio looks very good, what's the wall for?

Alex@POD

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Monday 10th August 2015
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hornetrider said:
The patio looks very good, what's the wall for?
It's only there to delimit the patio, I prefer it visually. There will also be a chiminea in the corner so it will help radiate the heat towards the centre of the patio hopefully.

bazza white

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128 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Shed looks great I'm about to build the same although a bit smaller (4.2mx2.4m) and using pvc window and door.

The breather membrane is something that's still up for discussion. I was for this route but also thought sod it do it the same as yours.

What roofing did you use after

Alex@POD

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Monday 10th August 2015
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bazza white said:
Shed looks great I'm about to build the same although a bit smaller (4.2mx2.4m) and using pvc window and door.

The breather membrane is something that's still up for discussion. I was for this route but also thought sod it do it the same as yours.

What roofing did you use after
Sounds good, let us know how you get on! For the roof I used 12mm ply/OSB and felt tiles.

paulrockliffe

15,702 posts

227 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Just seen this thread, great work!

I was going to say the same about the workshop design, but you've done it now, so there's no point. I'm sure it'll last long enough for it to be time and money well spent, which is the main thing.

Here's a fairly definitive guide to shed construction that covers damp-proofing etc:

http://www.ukworkshop.co.uk/forums/build-a-shed-mi...

I think my main suggestion would have been to use a brick construction for the sides (and the back if budget allowed) as this would have allowed construction up to the boundary, which is a better use of the space. I don't think full building regs would apply as it's not a habitable space, but the fire regs would.

Similarly, I would have brought the wall on the left further forward than the shed front and used this for the greenhouse too; you wouldn't lose a lot of light as the fence blocks it anyway, and you get the greenhouse right up to the boundary, leaving more space for you veg. As it is, you can probably replace the fence panel with something more solid where the greenhouse is and do it that way.

Are you making the greenhouse yourself? If you do, please put loads of pics up as it's a job I've got lined up for some time in the future.

On the vegetables; if you're going to be growing stuff, why not use the front garden area that you've ear-marked for pebbles to grow herbs, spices, house flowers, etc?

Keep up the good work!

Alex@POD

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Monday 10th August 2015
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paulrockliffe said:
Just seen this thread, great work!

Are you making the greenhouse yourself? If you do, please put loads of pics up as it's a job I've got lined up for some time in the future.

On the vegetables; if you're going to be growing stuff, why not use the front garden area that you've ear-marked for pebbles to grow herbs, spices, house flowers, etc?

Keep up the good work!
Thanks Paul.

There were a few constraints when I was planning all this, but it is good to hear different views. I'm hopeless at bricklaying and do not enjoy doing it, so I think this was a big factor in deciding to build it out of wood. Bricks are also much more expensive, although they will last a lot longer, and I simply wouldn't have had the budget for that.

I would build the greenhouse myself, simply by making a wooden frame anchored to metal stakes driven a few feet in the ground, and covered in clear PVC sheets. My wife is quite keen on just buying one though, and I have so much to do I might just do that to save on time.

Part of the reason it's not right up to the boundary is the concrete slab running down the length of the garden, this would have to be broken up and it is a big part of the reason why the fence is still up. In other words, if the concrete comes off I need to budget to replace the fence too. This will be done to make it look like the other side, but not until later.

The space will be handy for compost bins and water butts in the meantime though.

For the front garden, it is facing directly north so doesn't get much direct sunlight for a lot of the year, and with the traffic (vehicular and pedestrian) I'm not sure about having stuff growing there. Although to be fair I hadn't given it much thought so far!

Alex@POD

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Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Well, I did not realise I'd left this that long without an update!

Progress has been slow over winter, as it is with such projects once the cash starts to run out and the weather isn't great, the motivation just isn't there!

Over the last few months, I have insulated and boarded the shed, installed the lighting and mains ring. Here are a few pictures of the process.











As you can see, since the shed is in use, I keep having to move all sorts of stuff back and forth so I can get to the walls!

This week I will be finishing the boarding on the ceiling, get all the joints taped up, paint the walls and ceiling, and varnish the roof trusses.

Then on Monday I will receive the materials for the floor, I've decided against self-levelling compound and I am going for chipboard flooring and lino.

Once that's done I'll be able to put the furniture in the right place, build a workbench, and start getting the place tidy at last!

ETA: Oh and the electrics will be tidied up in conduits once everything is finished and painted, I won't be leaving all the wires dangling down!

Edited by Alex@POD on Tuesday 3rd May 14:19

8-P

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Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Solid effort

Alex@POD

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Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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There is a small access down the side of the house. This is my track bike so doesn't get out often anyway, my road bike lives out front (and probably won't fit down the side!).

This is going to be another project, modify the access so I can get it through easier. It is a shared access but thankfully the neighbour is on side to get the garden gates moved a bit.

Alex@POD

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Tuesday 3rd May 2016
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Yes that's right, I used concrete anchors, every 2m or so around the walls.

Your plan sounds good, definitely the way I'd go should I build another.

Another thing I'll do is use bigger beams for the roof structure, so I don't have to build trusses like that.