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Robbo66 said:
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Cactussed said:
Robbo66 said:
Scarified November.
Hollow tined Feb.
Liquid Fertilised April early / Blade with Seaweed from Sherriff Amenity,.
Spray application of Primo Maxx yesterday.
this is what I'm aiming for! Fingers crossed (and lots of hard work in between)Hollow tined Feb.
Liquid Fertilised April early / Blade with Seaweed from Sherriff Amenity,.
Spray application of Primo Maxx yesterday.
https://www.pitchcare.com/shop/growth-regulators/p...
...... come again?????
Has anyone had much success with seed germination yet, or is the soil temperature still a bit low?
A couple of weeks ago I used a Stanley knife to 'slash' some areas of my lawn that were particularly infested with Yorkshire Fog, and overseeded the patches. Didn't see anything after a week, so re-overseeded with some freshly bought seed (the first lot was the remainder of a box that's been in my garage for a year or so). Still not a lot happening after another week, though possibly a little bit.
Just wondered what other people are finding. How quickly is your seed germinating for you? Me too impatient?
(I'm in Surrey)
Edited to add: If anyone has any tips on how I can rid myself of Yorkshire Fog and other horrible, stalky coarse grasses then I'm all ears. I'm currently mowing at the lowest setting my rotary mower will go to, mowing every 2 or 3 days, and raking to make the coarse grasses stand up before mowing. Anything else I can be doing?
A couple of weeks ago I used a Stanley knife to 'slash' some areas of my lawn that were particularly infested with Yorkshire Fog, and overseeded the patches. Didn't see anything after a week, so re-overseeded with some freshly bought seed (the first lot was the remainder of a box that's been in my garage for a year or so). Still not a lot happening after another week, though possibly a little bit.
Just wondered what other people are finding. How quickly is your seed germinating for you? Me too impatient?
(I'm in Surrey)
Edited to add: If anyone has any tips on how I can rid myself of Yorkshire Fog and other horrible, stalky coarse grasses then I'm all ears. I'm currently mowing at the lowest setting my rotary mower will go to, mowing every 2 or 3 days, and raking to make the coarse grasses stand up before mowing. Anything else I can be doing?
Edited by Dr Mike Oxgreen on Sunday 10th May 07:39
Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Just wondered what other people are finding. How quickly is your seed germinating for you? Me too impatient?
(I'm in Surrey)
I'm also in Surrey and I've found that with the cooler temperatures seed germination has been been very dependent on shade and sunlight levels. Those areas exposed to sun for most of the day and where the existing grass has been thin (or non existent) have germinated after a week or so, whereas just a little shade has been enough to keep the soil temperatures cool to the extent that only now, after two and a half weeks, is the seed starting to germinate. (I'm in Surrey)
Due to lack of time last year I did neglect the lawn somewhat, and didn't manage to over seed etc in the autumn so I'm playing catch up at the moment.
Here's the state of play so far after moss and weed killing, raking, feeding, top dressing, and over seeding:
In the very foreground you can see this year's seeding on what was bare earth where I'd levelled that section - that's the most advanced germination of all as it gets sun all day.
I did throw down some 6-9-6 starter lawn fertiliser as well so once it gets going it's developing quite nicely.
For the top dressing I use my own mix of equal parts compost, sharp sand and topsoil, sifted to 4 or 5mm.
Sounds like I'm being a bit impatient with my seed!
My Yorkshire Fog problem is a long-term one. When we moved in about 6 or 7 years ago, the 'lawn' was very neglected. Really I should have nuked it and either reseeded or turfed, but I decided to play the long game and try to cultivate it back into shape. I'm still playing that game!
Overall, I'm gradually winning, and I have successfully introduced a good percentage of fine grasses, but the Yorkshire Fog seems particularly bad this year. There are areas where it's mixed in with the rest of the grass, so I can't simply dig it out. To most people's eyes the lawn looks good - healthy, thick, no moss, very few weeds - but to my eyes the Fog stands out and taunts me.
What I'd really like to try is a product called 'Rescue', which is a selective herbicide that only kills coarse weed grasses and rye grasses. But it's about £350 a bottle and is only available to professional users: intended for golf course groundsmen and the like.
My Yorkshire Fog problem is a long-term one. When we moved in about 6 or 7 years ago, the 'lawn' was very neglected. Really I should have nuked it and either reseeded or turfed, but I decided to play the long game and try to cultivate it back into shape. I'm still playing that game!
Overall, I'm gradually winning, and I have successfully introduced a good percentage of fine grasses, but the Yorkshire Fog seems particularly bad this year. There are areas where it's mixed in with the rest of the grass, so I can't simply dig it out. To most people's eyes the lawn looks good - healthy, thick, no moss, very few weeds - but to my eyes the Fog stands out and taunts me.
What I'd really like to try is a product called 'Rescue', which is a selective herbicide that only kills coarse weed grasses and rye grasses. But it's about £350 a bottle and is only available to professional users: intended for golf course groundsmen and the like.
Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Really I should have nuked it and either reseeded or turfed, but I decided to play the long game and try to cultivate it back into shape. I'm still playing that game!
That sounds all too familiar. Short of nuking the Fog from orbit, I'd just keep trying to stress it as much as possible - cutting it short in dry spells, slashing and raking it.
I've got a similar patch of weed grasses that is far less obvious now thanks to over seeding multiple times, but I still know it's there so it offends my eyes. I think, if conditions are good this autumn, I'm just going to dig that area out and reseed from scratch.
Back - I have a mole issue which is highly irritating. I have a load of traps set and hope I can get the little sods.
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Front - There is a bit of moss and some weeds. I have just treated it with Evergreen 4 in 1 so I will see how that goes. It is looking a lot better than this time last year.
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image by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/35309189@N02/][/url]Front - There is a bit of moss and some weeds. I have just treated it with Evergreen 4 in 1 so I will see how that goes. It is looking a lot better than this time last year.
Untitled by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/35309189@N02/][/url]jagnet said:
That sounds all too familiar. Short of nuking the Fog from orbit, I'd just keep trying to stress it as much as possible - cutting it short in dry spells, slashing and raking it.
I've got a similar patch of weed grasses that is far less obvious now thanks to over seeding multiple times, but I still know it's there so it offends my eyes. I think, if conditions are good this autumn, I'm just going to dig that area out and reseed from scratch.
.jagnet said:
I've found that with the cooler temperatures seed germination has been been very dependent on shade and sunlight levels.
Likewise. Some new patches are on their second mow, some first, some haven't emerged at all yet.Still got a fair few weeds though, is there a recommended lawn weedkiller? Verdone seems to get good reviews on Amazon.
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Sounds like I'm being a bit impatient with my seed!
My Yorkshire Fog problem is a long-term one. When we moved in about 6 or 7 years ago, the 'lawn' was very neglected. Really I should have nuked it and either reseeded or turfed, but I decided to play the long game and try to cultivate it back into shape. I'm still playing that game!
Overall, I'm gradually winning, and I have successfully introduced a good percentage of fine grasses, but the Yorkshire Fog seems particularly bad this year. There are areas where it's mixed in with the rest of the grass, so I can't simply dig it out. To most people's eyes the lawn looks good - healthy, thick, no moss, very few weeds - but to my eyes the Fog stands out and taunts me.
What I'd really like to try is a product called 'Rescue', which is a selective herbicide that only kills coarse weed grasses and rye grasses. But it's about £350 a bottle and is only available to professional users: intended for golf course groundsmen and the like.
Used rescue a couple of times yes it works but it does seem to take a lot of the other grasses with it so it's a bit of a renovation project afterwards.My Yorkshire Fog problem is a long-term one. When we moved in about 6 or 7 years ago, the 'lawn' was very neglected. Really I should have nuked it and either reseeded or turfed, but I decided to play the long game and try to cultivate it back into shape. I'm still playing that game!
Overall, I'm gradually winning, and I have successfully introduced a good percentage of fine grasses, but the Yorkshire Fog seems particularly bad this year. There are areas where it's mixed in with the rest of the grass, so I can't simply dig it out. To most people's eyes the lawn looks good - healthy, thick, no moss, very few weeds - but to my eyes the Fog stands out and taunts me.
What I'd really like to try is a product called 'Rescue', which is a selective herbicide that only kills coarse weed grasses and rye grasses. But it's about £350 a bottle and is only available to professional users: intended for golf course groundsmen and the like.
TheInternet said:
Likewise. Some new patches are on their second mow, some first, some haven't emerged at all yet.
Still got a fair few weeds though, is there a recommended lawn weedkiller? Verdone seems to get good reviews on Amazon.
Verdone is very good, as is Resolva. I tend to use the former to treat the whole lawn every couple of years and the latter as a spot spray in between as the manufacturers suggest waiting 6 months plus before treating new grass, versus 2 months for Verdone.Still got a fair few weeds though, is there a recommended lawn weedkiller? Verdone seems to get good reviews on Amazon.
Patch1875 said:
Used rescue a couple of times yes it works but it does seem to take a lot of the other grasses with it so it's a bit of a renovation project afterwards.
Interesting. Yes, I kinda assumed that I'd end up with a very thin lawn, so would do it a couple of weeks before the autumn scarifying-and-overseed routine.But maybe I should just nuke the worst areas with glyphosate and reseed - will achieve much the same for a fraction of the cost. (And I might not succeed in actually buying Rescue anyway.)
For now, I'll keep slashing, overseeding, raking and mowing short.
All, I'm after a bit of advice.
After moving into our new place in winter, I thought I'd start trying to improve the lawns which had been clearly neglected.
I scarified in early April and then put down some fertilizer/moss killer... this:
I used a push-along applicator and set it to be around the 35g per sq m application rate.
It was difficult to see which areas I had already gone over so after 3 weeks, I've got problems with yellow sections where I didn't put any product. This is noticable as I applied the fertilizer in line with the hedge at the side, but mow the grass at about 45 degrees...
Anyway, to get rid of the yellow strips, would it be Ok to do a 2nd application of the product over the entire lawn again, or should I just hand-sprinkle product on the yellow bits?
The criss-cross of yellow strips and mowing stripes:
Closer view:
After moving into our new place in winter, I thought I'd start trying to improve the lawns which had been clearly neglected.
I scarified in early April and then put down some fertilizer/moss killer... this:
I used a push-along applicator and set it to be around the 35g per sq m application rate.
It was difficult to see which areas I had already gone over so after 3 weeks, I've got problems with yellow sections where I didn't put any product. This is noticable as I applied the fertilizer in line with the hedge at the side, but mow the grass at about 45 degrees...
Anyway, to get rid of the yellow strips, would it be Ok to do a 2nd application of the product over the entire lawn again, or should I just hand-sprinkle product on the yellow bits?
The criss-cross of yellow strips and mowing stripes:
Closer view:
Smartboy said:
You could wait another 3 weeks before reapplying (as per the manufacturer's instructions), or try to hand scatter a light application on the yellow areas.
If it were me, and assuming that you don't have a major moss or weed issue on those areas, I'd go over the lawn again with a light application of just lawn sand or a soluble ferrous sulphate product just to green it up and blend in those areas a little. Perhaps put down a little slow release granular fertiliser on those areas with a repeat application at normal strength across the whole lawn in a month.
In future to avoid this problem, split the spreading into two, running across the lawn at 90 degrees for the second application.
Whilst all in one products are useful time savers, I do prefer separating the products so that I can apply each as it's required and avoid repeat doses of weed killer on a weed free lawn or heavy amounts of iron that risks burning the grass.
Whats the best way of, erm, ironing out your lawn? Our back garden was apparently all landscaped by the previous owner. As the house backs on to a hill, it used to be a tiered garden but the previous owner has changed this to a patio level at the back door and then steps up to a decent rectangle of grass, enclosed with brick. But it seems they then just dumped a load of dirt and threw some seeds on it because its lumpy as fook. Like a green version of the moon. Even the lawn mower has trouble with it, catching the blades on errant lumps or getting stuck in pot-holes.
Part of me wants to rip it all up and lay new turf, flat.
They also planted a bamboo tree in a nice looking rockery area on the upper patio section. Yep, that thing tore the paving a new one. Apparently the guy next door had to come over a relay all the paving properly and dig out the bamboo. We've been trying to dig out the b
d, but its a tough old bird! Hopefully the tree poison has worked and its dead. Still needs digging out though. I don't have enough elbow grease to shift it!
Part of me wants to rip it all up and lay new turf, flat.
They also planted a bamboo tree in a nice looking rockery area on the upper patio section. Yep, that thing tore the paving a new one. Apparently the guy next door had to come over a relay all the paving properly and dig out the bamboo. We've been trying to dig out the b
d, but its a tough old bird! Hopefully the tree poison has worked and its dead. Still needs digging out though. I don't have enough elbow grease to shift it!Edited by Otispunkmeyer on Monday 11th May 10:39
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