2015 Lawn thread

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Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,131 posts

166 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Traditionally the end of August or beginning of September is the recommended time for scarifying, but since you're a little further north you could probably do it now if you're keen to get going. Temperatures in your neck of the woods aren't exactly likely to be scorchio, so just water it frequently afterwards and I reckon you'll be fine.

Edited to add: Another way of looking at it is to observe what the grass has been doing. If it's growing strongly then now is a good time to scarify; but if it has slowed right down due to heat and drought then you should wait until conditions improve. My grass virtually stopped growing about a month ago, but it is growing again now.

Edited by Dr Mike Oxgreen on Monday 10th August 11:08

Craikeybaby

10,434 posts

226 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Stripey lawn by Lewis Craik, on Flickr

With all the sun/rain we've had recently and after some lawn feed a few weeks back I'm really pleased with how my lawn is looking now. Normally in early August I'd go over it with a lawn weedkiller, but it looks weed free at the moment, so I'll just continue with the spot applications.

jagnet

4,121 posts

203 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Edited to add: Another way of looking at it is to observe what the grass has been doing. If it's growing strongly then now is a good time to scarify; but if it has slowed right down due to heat and drought then you should wait until conditions improve. My grass virtually stopped growing about a month ago, but it is growing again now.
yes This is definitely what you want to be looking at. If the grass is dormant due to dry weather then scarifying it and removing much of its remaining water reserves is going to cause it far more harm than good. Also, if the ground is dry then you're going to struggle to scarify to any depth and you'll find that the grass is getting uprooted when the tines can't slice into the ground properly, rather than having them cut neatly through the soil and grass roots.

So you don't want to do it too early if the conditions aren't right, but neither do you want to do it too late and not give the lawn time to recover or fresh grass seed time to establish before the frosts start.

This is definitely the time to be looking to start if you can, and if conditions will allow.

It's still far too dry here to be renovating (despite a brief rain shower passing overhead as I type) so in the meantime I'm busying myself with my charcoal pit making some biochar from garden prunings ready for when I can start on the lawn.


Craikeybaby said:
Having a more or less weed free lawn thanks to a healthy turf rather than frequent applications of weedkiller is so very satisfying. That grass is looking lovely and healthy.

Twilkes

478 posts

140 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Started mowing the lawn yesterday and immediately about half a dozen little white butterflies flew up from the grass. They were maybe three quarters of an inch across, with slightly translucent white wings, and they didn't really fly with much purpose, as if they were panicked and didn't know where to go. By the end of the mowing there was about twenty of them flying around at low level.

I thought they might be baby butterflies until my wife reminded me that's not really the way that butterflies are made. smile Anyone know what they might have been? Whatever they were, they loved the grass as they didn't seem interested in the flowers nearby.

Patch1875

4,896 posts

133 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Twilkes said:
Started mowing the lawn yesterday and immediately about half a dozen little white butterflies flew up from the grass. They were maybe three quarters of an inch across, with slightly translucent white wings, and they didn't really fly with much purpose, as if they were panicked and didn't know where to go. By the end of the mowing there was about twenty of them flying around at low level.

I thought they might be baby butterflies until my wife reminded me that's not really the way that butterflies are made. smile Anyone know what they might have been? Whatever they were, they loved the grass as they didn't seem interested in the flowers nearby.
Sure they are called white flys usually harmless to the grass but maybe not your other plants they are very common at this time of year.

RichB

51,693 posts

285 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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Whitefly is tiny, certainly not 3/4" across.

Twilkes

478 posts

140 months

Monday 10th August 2015
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RichB said:
Whitefly is tiny, certainly not 3/4" across.
Yep, these were definitely of a baby-butterfly-mistakeable size.

Patch1875

4,896 posts

133 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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When they are airborne they look much bigger,still sure that's what it is don't know any other insect that behaves like that.
Most of the lawns I'm working on today have them flying around when I'm on them.

See if you can catch one and take a pic?

R8VXF

6,788 posts

116 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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R8VXF said:
moles said:
Barny can you not see the clippings on the lawn I know you said you mow 3 times a week but even so with watering I'd imagine the clippings are 10-15mm long do they not show on the lawn at all?. How low are you cutting the lawn with the classic seed?.
They generally disappear from view in a day or so, I just go round and make sure any large clumps are redistributed. Currently mowing on setting 4 of 5 on the mower.
Just thought of another thing moles, as I use a cylinder mower, it throws the clippings forwards which then get recut as you pas back over them, effectively acting like a mulcher. This was my lawn at the weekend, note I have also cleared more of the edging as well. You can also see the edging stones we are going to be using around the grass and the beds in the bottom left hand corner.




ETA: Don't worry jagnet, I am cross cutting during the week, I just like the long stripes on the weekend biggrin

Edited by R8VXF on Tuesday 11th August 11:04

Patch1875

4,896 posts

133 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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When they are airborne they look much bigger,still sure that's what it is don't know any other insect that behaves like that.
Most of the lawns I'm working on today have them flying around when I'm on them.

See if you can catch one and take a pic?

jagnet

4,121 posts

203 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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R8VXF said:
ETA: Don't worry jagnet, I am cross cutting during the week, I just like the long stripes on the weekend biggrin
biggrin I'm glad that I'm not the only one that does that then.

That lawn is really looking good now thumbup

R8VXF

6,788 posts

116 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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jagnet said:
R8VXF said:
ETA: Don't worry jagnet, I am cross cutting during the week, I just like the long stripes on the weekend biggrin
biggrin I'm glad that I'm not the only one that does that then.

That lawn is really looking good now thumbup
rofl

Cheers fella, has taken a lot of work and there is still plenty more to do, but I am finding it very satisfying seeing the progress so far.

This was my garden when I moved in about 5 years ago!

Nick_MSM

681 posts

187 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Mine at the moment...(all the rubbish did find its way to the tip that very same day wink )




Dr Mike Oxgreen

4,131 posts

166 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Harrumph! Rain stopped play on my glyphosating this evening. I've got half of the lawn sprayed; I just hope it doesn't get washed away overnight.

The red dye is a little disappointing. Despite my living within half a mile of Horsell Common, you wouldn't know the aliens had landed on my lawn. But it did produce a very subtle colour change that was just enough for me to see where I'd been.

Hopefully I'll be able to finish tomorrow.

Japveesix

4,483 posts

169 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Twilkes said:
RichB said:
Whitefly is tiny, certainly not 3/4" across.
Yep, these were definitely of a baby-butterfly-mistakeable size.
Lawn moths I would think. Harmless and fluttery and much like the original description smile

sparkythecat

7,906 posts

256 months

Tuesday 11th August 2015
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Traditionally the end of August or beginning of September is the recommended time for scarifying, but since you're a little further north you could probably do it now if you're keen to get going. Temperatures in your neck of the woods aren't exactly likely to be scorchio, so just water it frequently afterwards and I reckon you'll be fine.

Edited to add: Another way of looking at it is to observe what the grass has been doing. If it's growing strongly then now is a good time to scarify; but if it has slowed right down due to heat and drought then you should wait until conditions improve. My grass virtually stopped growing about a month ago, but it is growing again now.

Edited by Dr Mike Oxgreen on Monday 10th August 11:08


Thanks Doc. It's not growing much at present and as there's a dry spell forecast next week, I'll leave it another fortnight.

jagnet

4,121 posts

203 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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R8VXF said:
rofl

Cheers fella, has taken a lot of work and there is still plenty more to do, but I am finding it very satisfying seeing the progress so far.

This was my garden when I moved in about 5 years ago!
That's quite a difference between then and now biggrin It's interesting how much larger the garden looks now that it's broken up with the borders and plants.

Nick_MSM said:
That looks lovely thumbup

jagnet

4,121 posts

203 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Dr Mike Oxgreen said:
Harrumph! Rain stopped play on my glyphosating this evening. I've got half of the lawn sprayed; I just hope it doesn't get washed away overnight.

The red dye is a little disappointing. Despite my living within half a mile of Horsell Common, you wouldn't know the aliens had landed on my lawn. But it did produce a very subtle colour change that was just enough for me to see where I'd been.

Hopefully I'll be able to finish tomorrow.
I didn't realise that you were so close to Horsell Common, that really would've been in keeping. It's a shame that the dye was so subtle, it had so much potential biggrin

R8VXF

6,788 posts

116 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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jagnet said:
R8VXF said:
rofl

Cheers fella, has taken a lot of work and there is still plenty more to do, but I am finding it very satisfying seeing the progress so far.

This was my garden when I moved in about 5 years ago!
That's quite a difference between then and now biggrin It's interesting how much larger the garden looks now that it's broken up with the borders and plants.
It definitely does break things up and provide some interest to the garden smile

Twilkes

478 posts

140 months

Wednesday 12th August 2015
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Japveesix said:
Twilkes said:
RichB said:
Whitefly is tiny, certainly not 3/4" across.
Yep, these were definitely of a baby-butterfly-mistakeable size.
Lawn moths I would think. Harmless and fluttery and much like the original description smile
Looking at images, think it's most like to be whitefly. They look like butterflies/moths when flying, but when landed they fold there wings into a line, rather than the triangular shape of the lawn moths.

Wish I'd caught a few more in the mower now. smile